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Posted March 30, 2010
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Lou: It is not about pirates but about controlling distribution . . . like when you wanted to watch that movie on your PSP a few weeks ago . . . if I remember correctly you had to use a third party software to watch the movie on the PSP. Even the digital copy they "provided" would not work.
To see what your friendly RIAA and MPAA are up to now look and [url=http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9EKLG880.htm]here and here.
This is quoted from another site (lost the link, sorry) as one persons fix for piracy which I felt was fairly accurate.
"If you don’t want people to pirate
1. Don’t bastardize the people who are simply making digital content that they physically own.
2. Make it easier to get digital content that can played when, where, what with and how WE want
3. Make it affordable. Digital distribution has got to be cheaper in the long run then physical distribution…but who wants to lose the lucrative distribution license anyway.
4. Get rid of regions! I spend more time trying to find that obscure TV program then I do actually watching it.
5. Global releases. I shouldn’t have to wait 4 weeks from a program been aired some where overseas to it appearing on my TV here in oz…I watched the first part of V before channel 9 even announced it would be showing it – lost ratings people!"
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Stuff: I agree 100%. I think most people will not steal under these conditions, and it is not unreasonable. This is why I support GOG and what they are doing. I think this site is showing that respecting the customer this way can be a viable business model.
Post edited March 30, 2010 by BrainCandy
Posted March 30, 2010
Really wanna fight piracy.
Start nuking Malaysia.
Everything is pirated here from movies and games to my country's national flag.
Posted March 30, 2010
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kianweic: Really wanna fight piracy.
Start nuking Malaysia.
Everything is pirated here from movies and games to my country's national flag.

You really do love your country, don't you? :P
Posted March 30, 2010
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Lou: RIAA issues aside - We need to stand by what we are saying and give credit when these companies try and solve the issues they face legally. I applaude the music industry because I can buy a cd and play it anywhere and in whatever device I choose without any problems. We are not there yet with Movies or Games but maybe some day.
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Stuff: It is not about pirates but about controlling distribution . . . like when you wanted to watch that movie on your PSP a few weeks ago . . . if I remember correctly you had to use a third party software to watch the movie on the PSP. Even the digital copy they "provided" would not work.
To see what your friendly RIAA and MPAA are up to now look and [url=http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9EKLG880.htm]here and here.
This is quoted from another site (lost the link, sorry) as one persons fix for piracy which I felt was fairly accurate.
"If you don’t want people to pirate
1. Don’t bastardize the people who are simply making digital content that they physically own.
2. Make it easier to get digital content that can played when, where, what with and how WE want
3. Make it affordable. Digital distribution has got to be cheaper in the long run then physical distribution…but who wants to lose the lucrative distribution license anyway.
4. Get rid of regions! I spend more time trying to find that obscure TV program then I do actually watching it.
5. Global releases. I shouldn’t have to wait 4 weeks from a program been aired some where overseas to it appearing on my TV here in oz…I watched the first part of V before channel 9 even announced it would be showing it – lost ratings people!"

The article was about hiring people to follow torrent sites for prosecution. If they would follow this avenue of punishing the pirates and ease up on the other aspects of controlling distribution I see it as a step in the right direction. I totally agree with your points - I only stated they should be given credit for moving in the direction of going after the problem.
Posted March 30, 2010
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Lou: The article was about hiring people to follow torrent sites for prosecution. If they would follow this avenue of punishing the pirates and ease up on the other aspects of controlling distribution I see it as a step in the right direction. I totally agree with your points - I only stated they should be given credit for moving in the direction of going after the problem.

I agree, they should go after pirates . . . however, their definition is such that you and I would be included as well. They have been following torrent sites for years . . . the difference now . . . they are hiring college kids.
I am sure there are pirates at every college but . . . using students to put fellow students in legal jeopardy is a questionable tactic. Hiring cash starved college students to expose fellow students is not a solution, IMHO. How messy can that get, student A says student B pirated 250 songs . . . how can you consistently prove the charge is true and not revenge or otherwise? Do colleges need the potential for law suits this tactic could generate? It is really just an ongoing war to maintain the cash cow these companies have enjoyed for decades.
Of course when it's your son or daughter being charged it will seem more unfair, especially the outrageous fines . . .=)
Posted March 30, 2010
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Lou: The article was about hiring people to follow torrent sites for prosecution. If they would follow this avenue of punishing the pirates and ease up on the other aspects of controlling distribution I see it as a step in the right direction. I totally agree with your points - I only stated they should be given credit for moving in the direction of going after the problem.
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Stuff: I agree, they should go after pirates . . . however, their definition is such that you and I would be included as well. They have been following torrent sites for years . . . the difference now . . . they are hiring college kids.
I am sure there are pirates at every college but . . . using students to put fellow students in legal jeopardy is a questionable tactic. Hiring cash starved college students to expose fellow students is not a solution, IMHO. How messy can that get, student A says student B pirated 250 songs . . . how can you consistently prove the charge is true and not revenge or otherwise? Do colleges need the potential for law suits this tactic could generate? It is really just an ongoing war to maintain the cash cow these companies have enjoyed for decades.
Of course when it's your son or daughter being charged it will seem more unfair, especially the outrageous fines . . .=)

No place in the article does it say they are pitting students against students. They are hiring students because its cheap. I did not get any impression of them having to "rat out" their fellow students from reading the article. None of my kids has any torrent digital media and if I found out they did they would loose internet access as my own means of enforcement. As for the fines - they are seeking what is in the law and I am sure they will not get it. Also note that one of the defendants refused a much lesser settlement offer.
Posted March 30, 2010
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Lou: No place in the article does it say they are pitting students against students. They are hiring students because its cheap. I did not get any impression of them having to "rat out" their fellow students from reading the article. None of my kids has any torrent digital media and if I found out they did they would loose internet access as my own means of enforcement. As for the fines - they are seeking what is in the law and I am sure they will not get it. Also note that one of the defendants refused a much lesser settlement offer.

I stand corrected, I was going by the RIAA's past tactics and assumed their purpose in hiring students was to pursue other students. 150K per song is not really that outrageous, it is reasonable and it's the law. She should have taken the deal rather than defend her belief that she was innocent. . . =)
Posted March 30, 2010
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Stuff: I am sure there are pirates at every college but . . . using students to put fellow students in legal jeopardy is a questionable tactic. Hiring cash starved college students to expose fellow students is not a solution, IMHO. How messy can that get, student A says student B pirated 250 songs . . . how can you consistently prove the charge is true and not revenge or otherwise? Do colleges need the potential for law suits this tactic could generate? It is really just an ongoing war to maintain the cash cow these companies have enjoyed for decades.

Reminded of a poster from the Red Dwarf episode Back To Reality "Be a Government Informer. Betray Your Family & Friends. Fabulous Prizes to be Won"
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Stuff: 150K per song is not really that outrageous, it is reasonable and it's the law

WHAT? Reasonable?? That's like using a 20 megaton nuke to kill a spider
Post edited March 30, 2010 by Aliasalpha
Posted March 30, 2010
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Stuff: 150K per song is not really that outrageous, it is reasonable and it's the law
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Aliasalpha: WHAT? Reasonable?? That's like using a 20 megaton nuke to kill a spider

What if it's that big spider from Lord of the Rings?
Posted March 30, 2010
It'd still be overkill. Maybe not the 150,000 fold overkill that some might approve of. A kiloton nuke perhaps, after all I am arachnophobic and it is still a giant spider...
Posted March 30, 2010
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Stuff: 150K per song is not really that outrageous, it is reasonable and it's the law
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Aliasalpha: WHAT? Reasonable?? That's like using a 20 megaton nuke to kill a spider

To complete the analogy, you'll hit the wrong side of the galaxy while the spider would still go about its business as any other day and be none the wiser about your recent nuke action.
Posted March 30, 2010
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Aliasalpha: WHAT? Reasonable?? That's like using a 20 megaton nuke to kill a spider image

I agree . . . just indicates how broken our copyright laws are . . .=)
Edit: I have a really, REALLY dry humor . . . hard to see most of the time ;)
Post edited March 30, 2010 by Stuff
Posted March 30, 2010
A new twist on Splinter Cell: Double Agent?
I just watched The Departed as well. Time to get paranoid...
Posted March 30, 2010
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JonhMan: A new twist on Splinter Cell: Double Agent?
I just watched The Departed as well. Time to get paranoid...

The Departed sucks. Watch the original in Chinese from Hong Kong. :P
I must say, the Boston accents weren't bad.
Posted March 30, 2010
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Lou: If they would follow this avenue of punishing the pirates and ease up on the other aspects of controlling distribution I see it as a step in the right direction.

Except that time and money spent trying to punish pirates is time and money not spent trying to deliver a product that customers are willing to pay for, and generally the time and money spent going after pirates has little to no return on that investment.
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