Reference to you: Tom of Finland. So sublime, yet so very masculine as to represent unattained ideal for most of the boy-fancying girls... Yet I do wish I could afford Tom's paintings cum drawings!

I cannot fault anyone liking ale, mutton, or - yuikk - butter in any forms... yet I think any child should have a parent that is present in their lives beyond the very infancy - why should producing children at old age be an admirable feat?

This man who is over 80's should arguably have stopped at his pre-fifties - in case his idea is to be a father to his children. If not, he could just be a sperm donour, and still get the satisfaction of having produced such a number of off-spring. In any case, hopefully he has some money to pay off the education of those numerous children.

read it a long time ago but it sounded like he pretty much ignored the mothers and the children(especially since he didn't bother to keep track of about half of them based on what I remember that statement as) and did so rather than the sperm bank just liked doing it himself. I think he was a gazillionare or something tho and alot of the kids weren't actually his just he was so prolific when some woman shows up with one and he doesn't know enough to be able to say it isn't
I'll have to find the article again though. Cant remember if he was supposed to be in india or what(i think india)

but he eats if not nothing but then almost entirely meat and was able to do this. Haven't seen a vegan with the same abilities. Vegetables make you slow and weak like any of the other animals who eat them. If you wish to be strong like bear swift like wolf and cunning like hawk you have to eat like them(also breed like a barnacle(incidentally also the animal with the largest penis and an entirely carnivorous diet).)

edit- can't seem to find it.....I think I may have read about this man http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-476980/Worlds-oldest-father-21st-child-90.html...in which case hes only 4th highest with a much lower 21 confirmed children at least 3 born after age 80. So I probably misremembered the phrase "lost track at 90" as lost track after counting 90 sons instead of by 90 he had so many children with multiple women and his memory was finally begining to dull and so he lost count.

Either way he credits his meat diet for this and I'd love to see a grass-eater capable of such feats of manliness. especially since one of the arguments I've been hearing for vegetarianism is erectile dysfunction allegedly being caused by meat and healed by vegetarian diets

Uhh....

... Yeah, fuck you, modern medicine!

Exactly! Those uncivilized tribes in Africa that have an average height of something like 7 feet totally could not have grown that big with all of those non-existent industrial farms they have access to! Fuck you too, evolution!

Water has to be treated. Treating water uses energy. Energy which uses non-infinite resources. Hint: Polluted water comes down the same way it went up: Polluted.

I was unaware that we had an infinite amount of farmland on the earth's ~150x10^6 km^2 of land.

Yeah, the smog that exists in large cities and densely populated valleys is totally natural and healthy and not at all related to the high amounts of gas powered vehicles or industry in those areas. And those silly rainforests... always going off and getting so polluted. Bad, bad rainforest! How did the earth ever get along before humans arrived! Also, just a little FYI: I live in a heavy industrialized area (there have been steel mills where I live for a century), and we have the second highest cancer rates in the nation. Coincidence? You tell me. Ask the people who have to sweep off soot from their cars and front porches every morning. "That ain't cancerous, those are just magical flavor crystals that you sprinkle on your morning cereal to help you grow big and strong!"

Good lord....

Master of philosophy! Only one so wise as you could have reached such a conclusion.

I have a hard time believing that anyone who finished high school is capable of being so completely wrong about such basic issues. With that in mind, I'm forced to conclude that you're simply trolling, in which case I would say this: Job well done! I especially like the parts where you tell nearly every branch of science to fuck right off. That's right, science -- Who needs ya?!? We apparently don't! We have infinite resources and have no need for modern medicine, because so long as we eat meat, we will continue to get healthy -- and as an added bonus, we will apparently keep growing taller indefinitely.

Hey, something we can agree on! Although to be fair, nearly every single vegetarian I've met in my life has been female... which actually just reinforces that idea. But really that hardly matters - I don't care if any male or female chooses to be vegetarian so long as they don't force anything on me. I do believe that one day we won't need to kill animals for sustenance anymore, but I think that day is far away, and I don't think we're doing anything terrible or unnatural (in fact, eating meat is quite natural) by consuming meat in the meantime.

For a vegan, he sure did love to cook meat....

As of beginning or 2013, the European governmnets shall have to take a stance if they will pass a national animal protection laws over European (EU) statutes allowing ritualistic slaughter, i.e. the cutting of the jugular wihtout anesthesia.

I personally hope for a prohibition, as I see it as a cruel practice, and there is, as such, an alternative of being vegetarian for those who cannot accept the statute of numbing the animal before slaughter.

I probably read it funny.. is this for ritual sacrifice or slaughterhouses or both?

No slaughtering can be strictly humane, but the canard about kosher slaughterhouses is flatly a lie, and the usual offender, PETA, is the liar.

those the ones where they hoist the cow by its ankles slit its throat?
didn't think they still did it that way. they stun them now or something. they're supposed to be ko'd when they bleed out and they bleed so quick there isn't much time to wake up enough to feel anything(i think they slash other arteries too. and those blades are so sharp)

edit- ah, now it makes more sense with that last bit added on. got oyu mixed up with the guy above cause you had the same picture. I thought you were saying the opposite of what you were.

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edit- but on original topic and without being goofy: I think its nice you're a vegetarian op. why not? and yeah, some of those farms suck

Why should they have the right? There are limits in many other areas of life. Surely without law you can try to eat everything that doesn't eat you. But law and rights is about morale and freedom and what we all think is right. I don't see how this immediately means that we have no legal limits in our food range. For example I would say that nobody should have a right of hunting and/or eating a big whale or a primate or an elephant because these animals are just too developed to be killed.

i have. But attached is a picture of a vegetarian cousin to (wo)man. If plants can fuel those enormously powerful bodies, then plants can power the weakling human.

I have no problem with eating meat and people eating meat.

I do have problems (although that's not something that's on my mind very often) with animal death camps. I can't think about industrial farms in a different way.