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You paid 2 pounds for XCOM? Jesus, I keep forgetting about Steams stupid $1 = 1 ofanycurrency nonsense. For me, it's $2. I feel for you man. I don't know what Valve's issue with using normal exchange rates is, but the result is you're paying over 1.5 times as much as us and that would piss me off if it was me.
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Cliftor: You paid 2 pounds for XCOM? Jesus, I keep forgetting about Steams stupid $1 = 1 ofanycurrency nonsense. For me, it's $2. I feel for you man. I don't know what Valve's issue with using normal exchange rates is, but the result is you're paying over 1.5 times as much as us and that would piss me off if it was me.

For such low prices I don't really care but if you consider Modern Warefare II cost 60 euros here = $85. Pretty crazy prices.
No promo again it seems.
You people still think GOG is not slacking?
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JacobNZ: You people still think GOG is not slacking?

Nope, I think it's a calculated business move. Weekend specials serve the dual purpose of selling some additional games by lowering the price point, and also to maintain a regular level of excitement to keep people checking the site and thinking about GOG. However, at the moment GOG has the "Month of Activision" thing going on. On the marketing/PR side of things this has already brought in many new people, and also maintains a high level of excitement and interest with people due to anticipation about what Activision games will be released. I'd also guess that the games being released are also anticipated to have wide appeal. A couple of things follow from this that would make holding off on weekend specials for the time being quite sensible. First, as there is already significant excitement over potential Activision titles, a weekend special would actually likely disrupt the momentum of this by shifting people's focus. Second, due to the released games being chosen for wide appeal a weekend special could easily result in people who would have bought the new releases actually putting off that purchase to grab a discounted game. Now, this is all purely speculation on my part, but it seems all quite sensible to me from a business perspective.
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JacobNZ: Nope, I think it's a calculated business move. Weekend specials serve the dual purpose of selling some additional games by lowering the price point, and also to maintain a regular level of excitement to keep people checking the site and thinking about GOG. However, at the moment GOG has the "Month of Activision" thing going on. On the marketing/PR side of things this has already brought in many new people, and also maintains a high level of excitement and interest with people due to anticipation about what Activision games will be released. I'd also guess that the games being released are also anticipated to have wide appeal. A couple of things follow from this that would make holding off on weekend specials for the time being quite sensible. First, as there is already significant excitement over potential Activision titles, a weekend special would actually likely disrupt the momentum of this by shifting people's focus. Second, due to the released games being chosen for wide appeal a weekend special could easily result in people who would have bought the new releases actually putting off that purchase to grab a discounted game. Now, this is all purely speculation on my part, but it seems all quite sensible to me from a business perspective.
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DarrkPhoenix: But your analysis does not factor in that it is likely only hardcore gogers are exicted by new releases, I and many users of gog I know have been dissapointed by the countdown and the lack of added extras from it. I and many others only get excited by discounts which have not occured, thus gog has lost my money. GOG needs to cater for all its market not just the hardcore, excited by gimmicks like a countdown for a publisher. Do you think that gog should not have promo's for 4 weeks everytime a new publisher arrives? Steam and other DD sites do not stop their discounts just for the sake of a new game, as they know those interested will likely buy wether their is a discount or not and the casuals likely to wait only for a discount.
Post edited February 05, 2010 by JacobNZ
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JacobNZ: But your analysis does not factor in that it is likely only hardcore gogers are exicted by new releases, I and many users of gog I know have been dissapointed by the countdown and the lack of added extras from it. I and many others only get excited by discounts which have not occured, thus gog has lost my money. GOG needs to cater for all its market not just the hardcore, excited by gimmicks like a countdown for a publisher. Do you think that gog should not have promo's for 4 weeks everytime a new publisher arrives? Steam and other DD sites do not stop their discounts just for the sake of a new game, as they know those interested will likely buy wether their is a discount or not and the casuals likely to wait only for a discount.

Well, since neither of us have an inside connection to the folks at GOG there's not much point in speculating further, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on our analysis of the situation. I personally think it's more likely than not that the folks at GOG/CD Projekt have a pretty good sense of how to run their business (and the continued growth of both seem to support this), so I'll continue to interpret their actions in this context. Naturally you're free to believe otherwise.
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JacobNZ: But your analysis does not factor in that it is likely only hardcore gogers are exicted by new releases, I and many users of gog I know have been dissapointed by the countdown and the lack of added extras from it. I and many others only get excited by discounts which have not occured, thus gog has lost my money. GOG needs to cater for all its market not just the hardcore, excited by gimmicks like a countdown for a publisher. Do you think that gog should not have promo's for 4 weeks everytime a new publisher arrives? Steam and other DD sites do not stop their discounts just for the sake of a new game, as they know those interested will likely buy wether their is a discount or not and the casuals likely to wait only for a discount.
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DarrkPhoenix: Well, since neither of us have an inside connection to the folks at GOG there's not much point in speculating further, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on our analysis of the situation. I personally think it's more likely than not that the folks at GOG/CD Projekt have a pretty good sense of how to run their business (and the continued growth of both seem to support this), so I'll continue to interpret their actions in this context. Naturally you're free to believe otherwise.

I agree theres many ways to interperate this situation, but I feel IMO that GOG is pulling back with the founding of its niche. While it may be better for GOG not to have a promo, it is not better for us the consumers and it does not help that the hardcore of this forum can see GOG doing no wrong. If GOG can it will slack off, it employees may not exactly want to but it is in our nature, thus we need to continue to push them otherwise they will slack of and then by the time the hardocre have noticed it is to late to correct the situation.
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Red_Avatar: Steam isn't really a direct competitor. I wouldn't even pay �2 for the Xcom games on Steam because I know how little they care about supporting their games. Loads of people had trouble with X Com Apocalypse on Steam for example. You wouldn't have such a problems here on GOG.

Um... seriously?
Divine Divinity on GOG is completely broken, for the most part - tons of game breaking bugs and crashes and it is highly unplayable for the majority of people who own it. GOG has never mentioned there was a problem, and in fact they *keep selling* a glitchy, broken game.
Larian Studios has said a patch is forthcoming (with no ETA however), but in the meantime GOG keeps selling a broken game. So please, get off your high horse with the "you wouldn't have such problems on GOG" because people certainly do.
It doesn't happen often, but yes, it does happen. I love GOG as much as anyone but sometimes people really need to take the fanboy blinders off.
Post edited February 06, 2010 by Roufuss
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Roufuss: Um... seriously?
Divine Divinity on GOG is completely broken, for the most part - tons of game breaking bugs and crashes and it is highly unplayable for the majority of people who own it. GOG has never mentioned there was a problem, and in fact they *keep selling* a glitchy, broken game.
Larian Studios has said a patch is forthcoming (with no ETA however), but in the meantime GOG keeps selling a broken game. So please, get off your high horse with the "you wouldn't have such problems on GOG" because people certainly do.
It doesn't happen often, but yes, it does happen. I love GOG as much as anyone but sometimes people really need to take the fanboy blinders off.

So ... Larian will release a patch for GOG eight years after the game's release and you don't see how great that is? Because that's damn near exceptional - no Steam games received such a treatment except for the recent AvP.
Commandos received a patch on GOG too, the Steam version didn't. Same with Arx Fatalis. I didn't mean to say no GOG games have issues but if games CAN run properly on modern PCs with extra patches and tweaks, GOG will make it so. Steam doesn't care and sells whatever state the games are in resulting in a LOT more headaches. This does not mean GOG is perfect - but it's pretty damn obvious to anyone they are sure a heck of a lot better than Steam and do their best to make sure the games run as well as possible - I bet they were hunting for a patch for DD as well. What more can you ask for?
Oh, and the patch has already been released and is being tested.
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DarrkPhoenix: Well, since neither of us have an inside connection to the folks at GOG there's not much point in speculating further, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on our analysis of the situation. I personally think it's more likely than not that the folks at GOG/CD Projekt have a pretty good sense of how to run their business (and the continued growth of both seem to support this), so I'll continue to interpret their actions in this context. Naturally you're free to believe otherwise.
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JacobNZ: I agree theres many ways to interperate this situation, but I feel IMO that GOG is pulling back with the founding of its niche. While it may be better for GOG not to have a promo, it is not better for us the consumers and it does not help that the hardcore of this forum can see GOG doing no wrong. If GOG can it will slack off, it employees may not exactly want to but it is in our nature, thus we need to continue to push them otherwise they will slack of and then by the time the hardocre have noticed it is to late to correct the situation.

Its not about being a "hardcore" fan, we just realize that what GOG is trying to do here is much more than make just another digital download service. They are trying to change the status quo when it come to what you get for your purchase, as well as eliminating DRM. This is what is key to making GOG a success, not having sales every weekend to appease all the cheap-ass gamers out there. If you don't care about things like the extras that come with GOG games or the fact that they are DRM free, then not only are you not the target customer for GOG, I would also say you are in the minority around here and in general. The extras and attitude of GOG is what brings in the customers that stay and keep buying, not the weekend sales. If that's all you and anyone else is here for, then by all means, shop elsewhere when you find a better deal, you are not what is going to keep GOG around and help it grow.
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JacobNZ: You people still think GOG is not slacking?

Actually no, you're probably right, they're slacking.
How on earth are they going to real in the big publishers like say, Activision, with this kind of slacker 'tude ? Like, no way dude, right ?
C'mon gog, get to work already, will ya ?
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JacobNZ: You people still think GOG is not slacking?

It is blindingly obvious for all the rest of us that GOG are not in any way putting their foot of the pedal. Case in point: Activision.
For you, however, the lack of a weekend deal once or twice seems to be the only factor worth considering in the analysis of whether GOG are delivering a service that is up to their potential.
I can do nothing but hope several of your bodily orifices are invaded by rhubarb, so that you may for a time have a more ... pressing consumption of what little synaptic activity your brain can still deliver at will.
Post edited February 06, 2010 by stonebro
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DarrkPhoenix: ]
Its not about being a "hardcore" fan, we just realize that what GOG is trying to do here is much more than make just another digital download service. They are trying to change the status quo when it come to what you get for your purchase, as well as eliminating DRM. This is what is key to making GOG a success, not having sales every weekend to appease all the cheap-ass gamers out there. If you don't care about things like the extras that come with GOG games or the fact that they are DRM free, then not only are you not the target customer for GOG, I would also say you are in the minority around here and in general. The extras and attitude of GOG is what brings in the customers that stay and keep buying, not the weekend sales. If that's all you and anyone else is here for, then by all means, shop elsewhere when you find a better deal, you are not what is going to keep GOG around and help it grow.

Here I was thinking GOGs main punchline was Good Old Games, which I like, not free wallpaper and music. If GOG ignores the "cheap ass gamers" then they are cutting out a big portion of their sales. As it would seem only the hardcore would care for music and wallpapers, the rest just play games. How do you determine I am in the minority unless you think me, you, stonebro and weclock are the only people that buy off GOG. You need stats and since only the minority post on these forums and would give their opinion on this matter, we are not likely to be able to prove you or me as the minority. As steam and other DD services offer weekly specials, I will assume a large populice online are 'cheap ass gamers' and thus for GOG to reach its full market potential needs to have some sort of consistent promotion sechdule.
No offense, but who are you to tell me to shop elsewhere, what gives you the right to tell GOGs customers to go away? I may be vocal in giving my opinion, but I to would like GOG to succeed, but from experience only arrogrance can come from repeated praise without acknowledging weaknesses, that constitutes the fanboys of this site.
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stonebro: It is blindingly obvious for all the rest of us that GOG are not in any way putting their foot of the pedal. Case in point: Activision.
For you, however, the lack of a weekend deal once or twice seems to be the only factor worth considering in the analysis of whether GOG are delivering a service that is up to their potential.
I can do nothing but hope several of your bodily orifices are invaded by rhubarb, so that you may for a time have a more ... pressing consumption of what little synaptic activity your brain can still deliver at will.

"The rest of us" that is quite the assumption. How did you come to the conclusion, that the rest of GOG sided with you?
I see getting activision as a nessarcy step in the progression, rather than something symbolic has the hardcore of this site do.
No, not the only factor, but a biggie for the "cheap ass gamers" IMO.
Since you are regressing to insults, it is obvious your arguement fails and thus must make up its shortcomings by targeting me personally. Since you started the insults, I will have to join in. I hope global warming places norway in a constant state of high temperatures and direct sunlight. Where its occupliers including you stonebro, are burnt due to not being used to the heat. This pain will focus your synaptic activity, thus reducing your ability to reply to my posts.
Post edited February 06, 2010 by JacobNZ
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JacobNZ: As steam and other DD services offer weekly specials, I will assume a large populice online are 'cheap ass gamers' and thus for GOG to reach its full market potential needs to have some sort of consistent promotion sechdule.

The purpose of sales in general is two-fold: first, bring in additional money through price segmentation (i.e. some people will buy a game at $30, others only at $15, so you keep the game at $30 until you pick up most of those sales, then drop it to $15 to pick up more sales at that price point); second, to drive additional sales by bringing in customer traffic (e.g. someone sees news of a sale, drops by the site to take advantage of it, then also sees another product they're interested in and buys that was well). Note that both of these fall under the more general purpose of increasing revenue; if a sale results in the retailer making less money than they otherwise would have then the sale shouldn't have been offered. Now, there are also additional, more nuanced considerations. For example, a sale could result in less revenue for the duration of the sale, but bring in repeat customers that drive greater sales in the long run. Or a sale could bring in more revenue with respect to the product that's on sale, but drive down revenue on similar products due to running up against the limits of customer's disposable income or the amount of time they have to spend with a certain type of product.
Basically the only way to address these numerous factors is to look at actual sales data, pick out trends from sales that have been offered, then plan future sales around whatever conclusions can be drawn from those trends. Since we don't have that data speculating about what future sales plans would be optimal can't really go anywhere useful. This isn't to say that constructive criticism and suggestions can't be offered in other ways (possibly insights on considerations that wouldn't be evident from the analysis of sales data), but for such suggestions to be of any worth they need to be beneficial for GOG and not just customers (GOG is very customer friendly as far as businesses go, but remember that they are still a business and still need to be successful as a business).