"Welcome to the real world"...

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/ or http://www.wikileaks.ch/cablegate.html or http://www.wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html

and download the full site from: http://88.80.16.63/torrent/cablegate/cablegate-201012061210.7z.torrent

And my congrats to wikileaks (once again) for releasing stuff, and to the newspapers/magazines supporting it. The 6 Billion of people living in this little planet do need to know and be always conscious of what has happened and what is happening, and hopefully this is just the beginning of it.

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EDIT1: I'm not being anti-USA in any way, I'm nothing like that.

EDIT2: Hmm time to update this, now they moved to http://www.wikileaks.ch/ and you can always find updates at http://twitter.com/wikileaks

and also updates about WikiLeaks' status at:
http://www.wlcentral.org/ and http://news.netcraft.com/

plus, Ars reports on it:
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/11/wikileaks-us-sought-dna-passwords-of-world-leaders.ars

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/wheres-wikileaks-the-infowar-is-on-as-site-hops-servers.ars

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/meet-the-people-who-want-julian-assange-whacked.ars

Yeah, this isn't going to end well...

Please tell me they sanitized non-politician names from this? If not, it's going to cause more harm than good and actually cause a lot of people to turn on wikileaks.

Good? GOOD? This is terrible... open press I'm fine with, but putting lives in danger, and for what? Thats not ok.

I'd be very careful about buying any lines about "they're putting lives in danger." After all the shouting about "blood on their hands" following the military leaks, a pentagon report was then quietly released that stated that there weren't any informant names included and that to date there were no deaths that had resulted from the leaked information.

Remember, the primary reason wikileaks enjoys the public support it does is because the folks in politics have proven themselves to be lying scumbags time after time. Do you really expect them to behave any differently with regards to how they react towards wikileaks?

Is anything released actually Earth shattering, or is it just a rehash of the Afghan releases where absolutely nothing surprised anyone with half a brain?

Sorry, but as an amateur historian, I can't be discreet here. This is a gold mine for political historians!

I've only read the news reports on it so far, but there's honestly very little that's surprised me as of yet. I did like the comparison of Putin as Batman and Medvedev as Robin, though.

From what I've read it's just a bunch of diplomatic cables that while fairly frank are nothing particularly earth-shattering. It basically seems like the case that our diplomats say lots of stuff, other countries' diplomats and leaders know that our diplomats say that stuff, and our diplomats and leaders know that they know we say that stuff. But everyone thinks that the public shouldn't know any of that, so they then have to act all freaked out and outraged that we've been let in on the not-so-secret secret as well.

Just read this morning a summary of what they have posted about our politicians in Germany... I can agree on all points ;)

I read things about France, and I agree too. Especially interesting is to see the number of french troops in Afghanistan always increasing when Sarkozy (note the absence of "president" here) said again and again that it wasn't our war. Yeah, but being part of the NATO has a price...

Plus, interesting views on dispatching of special forces to rescue french journalists captured in Afghanistan.

Isn't it a greet deed and sign of friendship if you tell your friends the truth, how you really think? Actually I also can agree about the bites posted about german politicians. :) These american diplomats here obviously know their profession. :top:

This should happen more often and on a legal basis for all countries, I should think, but better without names of the creators next time.

Well, there are supposedly things in there that pertains to the recently "busted" american spy-ring in Norway. If the information is juicy enough, it could hurt american-norwegian relations severely, and the rest of scandinavia would probably follow suit.

But so far it would seem there's no real cloak-and-dagger material in these files.

The one supposedly from Hilary Clinton ordering the collection of EU officials' biometric details and clearance passwords is quite interesting, if a little stalky.

Or maybe it was all innocent and she merely wanted to present Brussels with a collage of their fingerprints and retina scans; like inspirational office art.

Best thing this year brought thus far. At least from an Italian standpoint: now the world too knows what kind of disgusting mafioso, asshole and son of a shit bitch Silvio Berlusconi is.

Please, someone bomb us.