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Can someone educate me on this? Why sell EGS drm games and not just sell drm games directly? How is that any different? With GOG selling EGS games where is the incentive for the devs/pubs to sell drm free? This sounds mighty weird, but perhaps I do not understand it fully. Can somone give me a simple explanation or some link? Thx in advance.
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https://www.gog.com/forum/general_beta_gog_galaxy_2.0/gog_galaxy_20_is_now_enhanced_with_epic_games_store_official_integration/page1

Here is the main thread about it.

Games from the Epic Store will be sold through Galaxy not from the GOG website and apparently the feature can be disabled so you don't have to see it if you don't want to.

It seems to be an attempt to make Galaxy an all in one stop for gaming, essentially a convenience to do everything from one client to handle everything rather than the user needing to jump around to different clients/apps/websites to do things.

My guess would be GOG would get a small percentage of the sale if it is done through the Galaxy client but this would need to be verified.

Myself I'm choosing to ignore it/not use it.
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GOG just want those sweet sweet Tencent money, need to keep those shareholders happy yo. You can't let Tim Sweeney the only party to get rich by cooperating a mega Chinese corporation. Iwinski and Kiciński also want to own some yachts.

Money concern aside, they have these grand scheme of making Galaxy the only application you need for gaming, not just for managing game library but also for buying games. Which is optimist, deluded or laughable, depending on what side you're on.
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Snowslinger: Can someone educate me on this? Why sell EGS drm games and not just sell drm games directly? How is that any different? With GOG selling EGS games where is the incentive for the devs/pubs to sell drm free? This sounds mighty weird, but perhaps I do not understand it fully. Can somone give me a simple explanation or some link? Thx in advance.
GOG is DRM Free and GOG and EGS are two distinct stores. Your not going to find these games on GOG.com unless they are released DRM Free. I believe the EGS games will be hand selected, so not all games will be purchasable in Galaxy (but I could be mistaken). And technically you will own these games on EGS, not GOG.

There are arguments to be made that this could impact certain games coming to GOG.com the store, but I'd argue that is probably not going to happen. If you are someone that prefers DRM Free or likes to have a DRM free backup copy, your not likely to purchase the game on EGS even within Galaxy. This is really an incentive for those who don't particularly care where there games come from and will buy at any store (and in this cases it's a win win for GOG if GOG get's a small cut and you don't have to leave Galaxy to buy the game over at EGS). Publishers still have the same incentive to release on GOG as they had before which is hardcore DRM free users and double dippers who want a DRM Free copy.

I suspect GOG will be very selective with this and only make it accessible to games that have a long shot of releasing here from publishers that are starch DRM users or are very far off into the future releasing here where sales will be low anyway...
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But how is it different from selling drm games directly? This I do not understand. Why release drm free if you can buy drm through galaxy? Doesn't make sensw to me at all.
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Snowslinger: But how is it different from selling drm games directly? This I do not understand. Why release drm free if you can buy drm through galaxy? Doesn't make sensw to me at all.
I think this is the question we're all making ourselves.
My answer? Money. They want to take the piece of the cake while still looking like the "good guys", not just another corporation.

Imo, selling EGS stuff with DRM and being truly DRM-free is directly incompatible.
Of course it doesn't make sense, it's all rethoric for the guillible.
Post edited August 24, 2021 by Enebias
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Snowslinger: But how is it different from selling drm games directly? This I do not understand. Why release drm free if you can buy drm through galaxy? Doesn't make sensw to me at all.
because the most people (including me) want to keep GOG as a DRM-free Store. Otherwise we could get our games direct on Steam or EGS.
most likely GOG get's some percents from these sales and furthemore it's a possibility t try out how far they can go.
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Snowslinger: But how is it different from selling drm games directly? This I do not understand. Why release drm free if you can buy drm through galaxy? Doesn't make sensw to me at all.
That's the question many of us raised in the previous thread:-
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/news_gog_galaxy_to_start_selling_epic_games

The answer appears to be "we're betting everything on a Galaxy 'meta-launcher' growing to seize 20% of Steam's business". Of course as you pointed out, if acting as an affiliate for selling Epic games via Galaxy sells well, it disincentivises releasing future games as proper GOG releases. (Because if you were a game dev and you got an 88% cut for the effort of producing one single shared version for both Epic Store and "the GOG version is Epic via Galaxy" with only one set of update logistics, vs having to release two separate versions (one 88% cut on Epic + a separate 70% GOG, requiring two sets of update logistics, possibly also needing achievements to be recoded specifically for Galaxy API, etc, who's going to bother with the latter?...

Edit: And as several of us also pointed out in same thread, if GOG / Epic really threatened Steam and the basis of that was "meta-client popularity", it would be the easiest thing in the world for Valve to break / degrade the ability of non-Steam clients to "scrape" information that all the 3rd party Galaxy integration plugins rely on, at which point meta-client popularity would come crashing down overnight...
Post edited August 24, 2021 by AB2012
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A while ago Sweney posted about a desire/need that you should only have to buy a game once. That is, you own a platform agnostic license, you buy on EGS, you own is on GoG, WinStore, etc.

IIRC He posted this a week before or after the EGS/GoG partnership was announced

Its not outside reason that this is the ground work for something that could be bigger.

I seriously doubt Valve would sign up as such an arrangement is in direct conflict with their Games as a Service subscription contract.
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mechmouse: A while ago Sweney posted about a desire/need that you should only have to buy a game once. That is, you own a platform agnostic license, you buy on EGS, you own is on GoG, WinStore, etc.
It's convenient for users, but would require a huge unification between different companies. A something that's impossible at this moment. Such an idea has also some downsides. This could limit market competition in overall and lead to the general price increase of games.
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Enebias: They want to take the piece of the cake while still looking like the "good guys", not just another corporation.
Salve Enebias.

It might seem like a jest, but why settle for a piece of the pie when you can have your own pie, fresh out of the furnace of innovative breakthroughs, while doing it with ravishing style?

https://www.gog.com/forum/general_beta_gog_galaxy_2.0/gog_galaxy_20_is_now_enhanced_with_epic_games_store_official_integration/post110

Cheers.
Post edited August 24, 2021 by FateIsOneEdge
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Enebias: I think this is the question we're all making ourselves.
My answer? Money. They want to take the piece of the cake while still looking like the "good guys", not just another corporation.

Imo, selling EGS stuff with DRM and being truly DRM-free is directly incompatible.
Of course it doesn't make sense, it's all rethoric for the guillible.
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FateIsOneEdge: Salve Enebias.

It might seem like a jest, but why settle for a piece of the pie when you can have your own pie, fresh out of the furnace of innovative breakthroughs?
That's what I always thought, too... and yet, often CDP's choices seem to defy common logic.
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Enebias: CDP's choices seem to defy common logic.
It seems to me that at the very least they seem to defy certain of their core commitments, upon which their clientele was established.
Post edited August 24, 2021 by FateIsOneEdge
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Snowslinger: But how is it different from selling drm games directly? This I do not understand. Why release drm free if you can buy drm through galaxy? Doesn't make sensw to me at all.
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Enebias: I think this is the question we're all making ourselves.
My answer? Money. They want to take the piece of the cake while still looking like the "good guys", not just another corporation.

Imo, selling EGS stuff with DRM and being truly DRM-free is directly incompatible.
Of course it doesn't make sense, it's all rethoric for the guillible.
Exactly what it seems like to me too.
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USERNAME:Snowslinger#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4Can someone educate me on this? Why sell EGS drm games and not just sell drm games directly? How is that any different? With GOG selling EGS games where is the incentive for the devs/pubs to sell drm free? This sounds mighty weird, but perhaps I do not understand it fully. Can somone give me a simple explanation or some link? Thx in advance.
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Hi BKGaming. I think one very important thing to clarify is that, as far as I understand it, GOG is going to be providing technical support for DRMed EGS games sold via Galaxy. I believe that was announced previously and If true, then it seems clear that it is not as simple/innocent as Galaxy being used as a unifying 'proxy' interface for the EGS store, but it indeed represents GOG selling and making money from DRMed games. It is almost inconceivable that GOG would provide technical support for games unless they are themselves taking a cut of the sale.

That would essentially mean the whole thing is basically a front to allow GOG to profit from DRM, which goes against the store's founding principles.
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Snowslinger: But how is it different from selling drm games directly? This I do not understand. Why release drm free if you can buy drm through galaxy? Doesn't make sensw to me at all.
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Enebias: I think this is the question we're all making ourselves.
My answer? Money. They want to take the piece of the cake while still looking like the "good guys", not just another corporation.

Imo, selling EGS stuff with DRM and being truly DRM-free is directly incompatible.
Of course it doesn't make sense, it's all rethoric for the guillible.
Precisely. It's yet another example of GOG trying to push the boundaries of what they can get away with. They are testing the water before taking the next incremental step away from being truly DRM-free.

Note that this is one of the 2021 boycott grievances.
Post edited August 24, 2021 by Time4Tea