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SargonAelther: Thank you for voting. It is fine to prefer originals, but if this becomes the norm, the actual sequels of the original series may start to suffer the same fate.
I am not saying I am preferring the originals, but if I had to choose, I'd prefer to play the original out of academic interest, to see what the original game was about. A bit like Gothic original vs remake, or Final Fantasy 7 original vs remake.

With e.g. Daggerfall, there is no reason to prefer the original buggy mess over the cleaned and much less buggier Unity version which has lots of quality of life additions as well.

I am not sure what the bolded part means. We do have the sequels of the original series here, don't we? Are you referring to possible remakes of all those games that we have here already? Or future sequels to the current series?
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timppu: I am not sure what the bolded part means. We do have the sequels of the original series here, don't we? Are you referring to possible remakes of all those games that we have here already? Or future sequels to the current series?
I am referring to the future sequels, to the fact that they are remaking the original game (With the intent to remake the whole Sky trilogy), while the original Trails series is still NOT finished. Yes, that's right. Kai (Trails beyond the Horizon) is not the final game of the Trails series. There will be more.

So the last thing we need is for the sequels of the original series to start following the practices of the remakes and start avoiding GOG too.

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timppu: I'd prefer to play the original out of academic interest, to see what the original game was about. A bit like Gothic original vs remake, or Final Fantasy 7 original vs remake.

With e.g. Daggerfall, there is no reason to prefer the original buggy mess over the cleaned and much less buggier Unity version which has lots of quality of life additions as well.
I usually try to play both the original and the remake, to compare the differences. Sometimes I prefer the original (Like with Mafia 2002), sometimes I prefer the remake. Something like Wasteland 1988 is too old for me, for example.
Post edited 5 days ago by SargonAelther
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tfishell: Might want to share this in the r/gog subreddit if you haven't already.
I have now posted on Reddit. Let's hope some of those posts don't get nuked.

Reddit (r/gog) Thread
Reddit (r/Falcom) Thread
Reddit (r/JRPG) Thread
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SultanOfSuave: ...or are we merely shouting into the void in the vain hope that someone hears and answers our cries?
We will shout anyways... what's there to lose? and if we are successful we might continue to get the games on GOG, if we don't do it we might lose all the next games in the series...

Hopefully we can make this work and give GungHo a wake up call to release the game here!
Post edited 4 days ago by Keihltrein
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SargonAelther: I am referring to the future sequels, to the fact that they are remaking the original game (With the intent to remake the whole Sky trilogy), while the original Trails series is still NOT finished. Yes, that's right. Kai (Trails beyond the Horizon) is not the final game of the Trails series. There will be more.
Um, so what? Remakes are pretty normal for this series. The game you are refering to isn't even the original, it's a remake. So they are currently making a remake of a remake. :-)

In case you didn't know: What we have (the international version of Trails in the Sky) is a PSP port that was published 10 years after the original which was never published outside of Japan.
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SargonAelther: I am referring to the future sequels, to the fact that they are remaking the original game (With the intent to remake the whole Sky trilogy), while the original Trails series is still NOT finished. Yes, that's right. Kai (Trails beyond the Horizon) is not the final game of the Trails series. There will be more.
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Geralt_of_Rivia: Um, so what? Remakes are pretty normal for this series. The game you are refering to isn't even the original, it's a remake. So they are currently making a remake of a remake. :-)

In case you didn't know: What we have (the international version of Trails in the Sky) is a PSP port that was published 10 years after the original which was never published outside of Japan.
I don't want to argue semantics, but if I must... Remakes are normal for Ys series, not Trails. Trails has only ever gotten updates/remasters.

What we have on GOG is a remaster of the original 2004 PC game. Adding western localisation, native widescreen and turbo mode do not classify it as a remake. It's a remaster at most and a simple localisation update at least.

Trails in the sky came out originally for Windows in 2004. Then it was ported to the PSP in 2006. Then the PSP version was localsied for the west and released in 2011. Then it was ported to the PS3 in 2012. Then the PC version was localised and released for the west in 2014.

Because the localised version released for the PSP first (2011), before it came out on PC (2014), a lot of people mistakenly believe that this game was originally made for the PSP.
But it was always a PC game, released in 2004. All the assets are the same. Nothing was remade. Only the localisation, widescreen support and a few settings are "new". It is thus a remaster at most.

The upcoming remake is the first remake for Trails.

Ps: Maybe you are thinking of the 2015 "Evo" version for the PS vita. They used new sprites and new videos, but the XSEED PC release is not using those new sprites or videos, so we do indeed have the original 2004 PC version, localised in English in 2014 with widescreen patched in. For additional evidence, I'm attaching an official 2025 vs 2004 comparison screen cap from Falcom themselves. The 2004 Windows version they are showing looks exactly the same as the 2014 XSEED version.
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Post edited 4 days ago by SargonAelther
Not sure if i should be happy or pretty reserved about this situation. Those remake stuff means it is going to be more compatible with the "normie"-taste and as soon as a game is way to much "normie" they tend to avoid shops not able to be suitable for this category. So, yes, it could pose a risk for GOG.

So far, this series was some sort of "bigger niche" title in the AA-category and usually highly dependable on fans. If they manage to move it into the "normie-range" many traits may change and they may focus on a lot of features being more mainstream. So, in long term it may not only able to hurt its unique gameplay-traits, as well its publishing.
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Xeshra: Not sure if i should be happy or pretty reserved about this situation. Those remake stuff means it is going to be more compatible with the "normie"-taste and as soon as a game is way to much "normie" they tend to avoid shops not able to be suitable for this category. So, yes, it could pose a risk for GOG.
It won't be a "risk to GOG" if it's available on GOG.

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Xeshra: So far, this series was some sort of "bigger niche" title in the AA-category and usually highly dependable on fans. If they manage to move it into the "normie-range" many traits may change and they may focus on a lot of features being more mainstream. So, in long term it may not only able to hurt its unique gameplay-traits, as well its publishing.
If you are worried about gameplay changes, then those have already happened in Daybreak. I, for once, think those are good changes.
Post edited 4 days ago by SargonAelther
Nah, it already started in Trails of Cold Steel 3+4 and Trails into Reverie with a battle system slowly going more "freeroam" in some way. In Daybreak it is actually not even turn based anymore but rather comparable to the Star Ocean or Tales-Series. On a further title of this series it could be action hack and slash-based because this is usually preferred by the mainstream. It is not necessarily "bad" but we got this battle system already on more games i may be able to count without using a calculator. Same for YS and well simply almost everywhere. Trails in the Sky (up to Trails of Cold Steel 2) kinda was special in this term and yes it was surely losing a lot of this flavor.

Anyway, as long as the gamers are jumping high into the sky because of joy i could not care less. I only may care if, due to matters linked to it, GOG may not be considered anymore. No matter if it is hitting my taste or if it is unique or not so unique anymore, it is still a great game.
Post edited 4 days ago by Xeshra
We reached 400 votes, hopefully we manage to get to the thousands before long.
I sent them an email, but geez the precedent with GungHo doesn't seem too promising, the only convincing argument I came up with is saying that not releasing the game on GOG could hurt the image and trust since a lot of people have the complete series here

We'll see
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Memecchi: I sent them an email, but geez the precedent with GungHo doesn't seem too promising, the only convincing argument I came up with is saying that not releasing the game on GOG could hurt the image and trust since a lot of people have the complete series here

We'll see
We could consider doing something like that, I'm really not looking forward to buy anything from them if they don't at the very least release this on GOG.

Is really a shame they decided to ignore GOG this way.
It would not even matter if almost any Steam user may avoid them because i bet they got the big cash flow from Nintendo those days and as well some fair amount from Playstation.

But why they truly avoid GOG? It is simply not worth the effort to them i guess and they may be worried about DRM free as well. Reality is, perhaps there are already more gamers playing it DRM free than DRMed, even without a GOG version. Not that it matters to them; fear is something that lacks "rationality", it does disturb a realistic overview.
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