What kind of logic is that?
Corps specifically kill themselves to grab userbase and HOLD it by any means possible: big userbase -> profit calculation logic dictates to prioritize big userbase->advantage of big userbase increases-> big userbase

If you plan to make desert good living place, you should bring fertilizer(products) of userbase(fruits) and not demand fruits to bring fertilizer.

Your area will never happen, this fault logic planted in your head on purpose.

Its currently on pair. Tell me where its not on pair. There is ripe audio backend, network is sufficient, there is language library affinity and opengl/vulcan stack is also here.

Game designers nowadays should abstraction to hardware as much as possible using good libraries or middleware engines. It gives little advantage if your game runs 50% faster than baremetal, but continuously needs updates even on single platform. That also specifically means - proprietary stacks are bad in the long run. Write proprietary products if you wish, but dont use proprietary middleware.

Possible? yes

Probable? no

You mean same situation like Witcher 3 and Tropico? I still have them on wishlist, but probable and possible don't seem to get along well. gg

I doubt there will ever be a good version for Linux. Just take a look at the Witcher series.

That’s a good point, how hard can it be to have a cross platform setup. Unity builds to half a dozen systems, others build to loads. Html5 is cross platform (I think), chromium is everywhere. Even M$ offers some cross compatibility with .net code! It really shouldn’t be this difficult nowadays? If things ran on Linux, more would use it. I have it installed on a dual boot system, and never boot to it as windows does everything I need.

Things which were designed for Linux - work on it. Try removing your dualboot, install Linux on dedicated drive, then boot into it exclusively for one month (no boot into Windows). I think its the only way to actually understand the system.

Technically speaking, a Linux port will definitely exist since the game is set to be released on Google Stadia (which uses Debian and Vulkan), regardless of the Linux percentages. Whether or not CDPR will go the extra mile and release it as a normal DRM-Free version, that is still unclear.

They will no doubt evaluate whether it's worth doing so, due to various reasons - Support tickets, revenue, long term support.

I think releasing it would be beneficiary to Linux and I almost have no doubt it will sell quite well considering its' popularity already.

EDIT: To me it can only go two ways:

1) Release it for Linux and I'll happily pay full price.
2) Release it for Windows-only and I'll wait till it's at a very very low price + I have to be sure it works fine in Wine.

Your missing the point. I am aware of Linux, it’s just that I cannot justify moving to it. Windows does everything, Linux still lacks in a lot of areas. Sure Linux might not leak all your data, but it’s not worth it nowadays, everything is leaking your data all the time. So what else? I have several TB of games, emulators etc. From the last 30 years, most of which likely does not work on Linux.
So yes, Linux has come on a long way, and for some specific tasks it would be great, but overall years of comparability, future.compatability, and things just working, it’s so much simpler to stick with windows. Just the way it is and until Linux actually provides full simple compatability for all windows comparables it’s not worth the massive effort to switch. I imagine it’s the same for the vast majority of people seeing the fallout from win 10 didn’t even dent the difference between windows and Linux users.

I use Linux (and that horrible mess of MacOS) at work.
When I was younger and I took joy in coding and testing and experimenting and exploring I mainly used Linux.

Nowdays?

I have a nice dual boot in ElementaryOS that I use to run LibreOffice (that doesn't crash on PDF exprot).

But honestly: is not worth it.
I even use Windows 10 without paying a cent. I got the "Activate Windows" on the right corner, that I don't even notice, and that's it.

Everything run fine. Smooth.
HW is always working and recognised.

Privacy? I sue Brave Browser and DuckDuckGo and Protonmail.
Google and facebook are not better the MSFT in leaking personal details.

So no: Linux is not on par to Windows for home desktops.
And no, MacOS is such a piece of crap that can die in a ditch.

Give a spin of a month for desktop everything like I said using, say, Gentoo or Nixos. Then we can discuss, where Linux is. :-) I just remember myself very well when I used 100% Windows and another period when I dualbooted. Only thing I probably miss is changing RGB lighting on my mouse (good to have but mostly irrelevant.. ).

All settings for my mouse can only be done with a program only available for Windows. Annoying :-( but it is now set to my liking once and forever so all is well.


In another thread a few years back I guessed Cyberpunk 2077 will be using DX12.

Cyberpunk 2077 on Stadia with Vulkan - holy crap, that's awesome! One step closer...

I also need to address this whole Linux OS discussion (again) from my POV:

I don't really get why when Linux gamers ask for a native version, 20 guys jump down your throat saying Linux is crap.

I don't really get why we can't have nice things.

I don't really get why the benchmark for desktops is "Is it as good as Windows 10?", when Linux surpasses it so often.

I certainly don't really see why Windows 10 is in any way better these days. Apart from maybe a few competitive multiplayer games and Anti-Cheat that don't work on Linux (though every day great strides are being made regarding DRM online functionality on Linux).

RGB-enabled hardware, mice/keyboards? Have you guys realised that almost everything has an open-source Linux version? Check out openrazer for Razer peripherals to start with.

If you cant' be arsed with anything though, Windows 10 is fine for you. But let's not pretend it's actually a better OS or experience.

I don't really get a lot of things.

Windows 10 is not better, but it is for gaming. Full stop.

Linux does everything and behind.
Perhaps too much.

Windows allow you to install a program, HW drivers and run these.

I see the "switch to Linux so superior system", a bit like the global warming theories that completely forgot that the south hemisphere is getting colder or,as minimum, not any hotter.

I don't actually disagree with this too much. I would say it's 'barely' better, a tiny bit better, only slightly better. And that's solely because some of the most popular games are competitive multiplayer games with anti-cheat that has not been ported to Linux. This causing some problems, like either not getting the game to work, or getting it to work, but possibly getting banned for the workaround implemented.

But another reason why Windows is better, is simply because of a lack of native ports for Linux - it's not because Windows is inherently better, like, at all. If these were ported to Linux natively, like for instance XCOM 2, chances are the game would not only run at least as good as the Windows counterpart, it might even surpass it due to lower overhead and resource utilisation by the OS. This is at least what I noticed with that particular game. Nevermind that usually games are ported straight into Vulkan when making native Linux ports, and thus does not use DirectX, usually for the better. Not sure what you mean by this, maybe something lost in translation.

Yes, Linux does everything pretty much that Windows does. There are some specific proprietary software or drivers that are only on Windows, and that might break a lot or a little when using Linux, no doubt about that. But these are largely very niche, and specialised, like some multimedia recording/editing stuff, I think?

For the rest, stuff just works, and you can make it work even better. For instance, I have a pretty special headphone amplifier / sound card in my rig. On Windows, I went through a nightmare to enable its amplifier function (from 32 ohms to 64-300 ohms). Because the drivers didn't exist for modern OS, Windows 10. It took me probably a week or more of dedicated troubleshooting and scouring of the interweb, and harassing the company tech support to get it done.

On Ubuntu/Manjaro/probably any linux distro? Works straight out of the box, just need to go into alsamixer sound settings and set the amplifier/resistance setting.

Mind. Blown. And linux doesn't? How easy is it to update/upgrade software and drivers in linux compared to windows? In windows, can you use one command or press a button to do it all? I think not.

Anyways, we can discuss linux desktop vs windows all day long, I don't mind.

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