More people will be moving over to Linux with the windows 10 change and it's never ending nonsense.

I'd certainly be down for a Linux version. But then i was prompting CD Projekt RED to look at DX12 compatibility for Windows 7 (it has been done on some games already) in the Cyberpunk thread for that.

Basically the only way i will pay for Cyberpunk is on a non Windows 10 version. If not then fine i'll pass it by.

The novel that "Linux just works" is a pure lie.
1. Many products get released only for Windows. Unfortunate. But a cold fact. Wine is a nice bonus but: doesn't just work.
2. There are never-ending dependency issues. Often even within the same distro.
3. There are so many distros, incompatible between them, is is a brutal pain to port SW across (again, as dependencies are a question mark).
3. Should the above being false, the flatpak technology would not being developed and being looked a blessing
4. A lot of HW needs one or two Kernel releases to get finally supported. Often initially sub-par to Windows.
5. A number of infinite quirks pester you if your desktop sports exotic keyboards/mouses/monitor conf or other devices.

So no. Linux doesn't "just work".
I like Linux a lot.
I developed drivers on Linux as a professional.
As of today. As Linux is. Relative to gaming: give me Windows every day.

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Regarding Linux here below - I think you ignored and brushed aside a lot of what I said. But that's ok. I'll just reply to your nicely numbered points. Hm. This doesn't automatically disqualify the statement that 'Linux just works'. How much of the stuff in Linux repos is open source stuff that was officially only released for Windows? I would imagine a hell of a lot. Of course there are dependencies. And they're handled pretty well, no? You install a package, it has dependencies, depending on the dependencies you might need some other packages and so on. All neatly packaged. Hell, Windows has dependencies too, except you're left with an obscure error message when the software fails to run, to figure out what's missing. Is Ubuntu incompatible with Kubuntu or Ubuntu Mate? No. Is Manjaro KDE or Mate or any other DE flavour incompatible between each other? No. So there aren't that many distros actually, as we don't count the desktop environment variants as incompatible between each other.

As for what remains, it is partly true - Arch/Manjaro users need some package builds in AUR usually, where as debian based/ubuntu users can use deb packages or ppa's and distro repos and so on.

I do think you're making this into a bigger issue than it actually is.

Stuff becomes available for Arch/Manjaro users very quickly, shortly after deb/ubuntu users I imagine. Rarely is anyone getting paid for that support, yet someone somewhere is maintaining up to date packages for people to build.

Hell, Arch and its flavours, are probably some of the last distros developers are releasing to - yet it's well known Arch/Manjaro can represent the cutting edge in Linux desktop gaming due to having latest versions of kernels/wine/dxvk+plus any other gaming software/drivers. Fair point, snap and flatpak do make it easier, yet the incompatibility between distros you mention still seems exaggerated across Linux. However, you have more experience and knowledge probably in this area, so I can be easily convinced otherwise.

But from what I've seen, non-ubuntu distros wouldn't be so well supported/updated if what you say was true. Maybe new bleeding edge exotic hardware, that doesn't work as is, that's true I suppose.

For most people, this doesn't even apply, gamers update GPUs and CPUs and accompanying standard PC hardware.

Name something that is on the market accessible to gamers that no linux distro can make run adequately currently? I'm curious. You would be surprised at the open source software that is out there.

You have a flashy blingey RGB mouse/keyboard/peripheral? You think there is no open source drivers/utilities to configure those on Linux? Think again. I think I already mentioned all Razer products work splendidly with openrazer, and if people bothered to look, they would probably find other brands too. Tell you what. Let's play a fun game.

You point to a specific game you have that doesn't run on Linux at all / doesn't run so well on Linux, and if I or others can't prove to you that it's possible to run it as good as or almost as good as in Win10, I will accept that for gaming - everyone should boot Windows10 instead of Linux.

Also, to troubleshoot, name your distro, kernel, gpu, wine, dxvk versions, and what arguments you used to run the game and we'll go from there.

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You don't get the point.

I don't want to spend 1 sec to troubleshoot. Nor making a list of many things that doesn't work properly with Linux (audio volumes inconsistent...)
And, unless you have the magic Linux distro no-one is using, you will find hundreds of posts, just on GOG forum, of people, even with lots of Linux experience, with non-running games.

Good hunting.

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no fun games

NixOS +1 !


I’d love something like…

pkgs.fetchFormGog {
login = "mylogin";
password = "password";
game = "cyberpunk";
}

If Linux had some secret gaming power out there pushing that percentage a lot higher then it would be a market force people would pay attention to. It's not, because it doesn't.

Does the "not getting in the way" count?

CD Projekt had to call a third-party contractor to get The Witcher 2 Linux "port" done.
GOG still has no Linux build of Galaxy after all these years.

I do not think they have people with the required skills to do a Linux port of Cyberpunk 2077. Nor the will to hire some.

No loss for me, I would not want to play it even if a native Linux version were available.

I see I've already thrown my vote in. Given the state of Cyberpunk 2077, I don't actually care about the game, I care about the idea of the following:

CDPR treating Linux to the same level of support as Valve does. Yes, that would be a step up.
An updated version of MojoSetup. Come now, the GOG installer is over a decade out of date.
An alternative to the installer based solution, such as a simple Tar.gz
To include formatting support for actual unicode.

To not hire things like "Scrum Masters", since any material I read on it reads like pure marketing cultism, unlike the Dynamic systems development method, or the Rational Unified Process (Which IBM uses), Kanban. or plain ole DevOps. Heck, I'd even accept Workers' self-management. Just call it Lightweight Timeframe Development, or LTD for short? Scrum just screams I'M A MARKETING "PROFESSIONAL" LOOKING FOR NEW BUZZWORDS TO SWOON OVER!!!
(And it has the displeasure of reminding me of one of the most unprofessional food channels I've ever seen.)

So being able to run WIn16 doesn't count, or black box tech games? Or literally running games at higher performance curves than native?

A Linux port would be (would have been) nice, but I am not insisting for one, nor I believe GOG would go for it either. Especially since they haven't made a Linux version of Galaxy yet.

Valve/Steam seems to put quite a bit effort on supporting Linux, but I think it is mainly just to keep it alive as their plan B, so that they can continue their business on Linux if Microsoft really started pushing the Windows ecosystem towards a walled garden using Windows Store, which is clearly what Valve was afraid of and complaining about back when the Windows Store was introduced with Windows 8.

At least the gaming I do in Linux currently (which mainly means playing Team Fortress 2 on Steam Linux, and older Windows games on WINE) seems pretty effortless and e.g. playing TF2 in Linux doesn't really differ at all from playing it on Windows... but I guess the "problem" is that Linux/Windows users like me don't really mind playing also on Windows as well (if we have to), which isn't an incentive for GOG or others to support Linux.

So yeah, I hope for the best for Linux gaming, but I am not demanding or insisting for it from game publishers and stores. Albeit, I admit I've recently become a bit annoyed I have to boot to Windows to run e.g. the Epic Store client, just to check if they have any interesting freebie games I should redeem.

Voted as well, but I'm skeptical. Would be nice though.

If they ever wanted to make a Linux version of the game possible, they'd have gone with Vulkan instead of D3D12 in Red Engine 4...

Which is not to say they can't add an additional Vulkan renderer to it now, I just find that very unlikely.