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https://www.pcgamesn.com/denuvo-voksi
https://www.resetera.com/threads/prominient-anti-drm-and-scene-cracker-voksi-sued-by-denuvo.57765/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackWatch/comments/91t0b8/what_happened_to_revolt_and_me/ (Linking this because it's relevant so no complaining)
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=61389&p=686696#p686696

I was able to tolerate buying the games if I could use the DRM emulation but this takes the cake. No more denuvo games for me. Good riddance.
If there's a gofundme or something I may contribute. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
Post edited July 25, 2018 by DosFreak
I'm looking at your forum title and wondering DOS it even work for you? ; )
Denuvo never got any money from me, sooner or later they will go bankrupt and games became unusable.
What is the point financing drm anyway?
It was kind of expected since he was way too careless with his personal data.

I'm not sure how far this'll go though, it might even be dropped after the investigation (depending on what the authorities find (as far a I know cracking or bypassing DRM is by itself not illegal in the EU) or if they even bother to pull it through, they wouldn't have acted without Denuvo complaining in the first place even though they easily could have).
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JinKazaragi: (as far a I know cracking or bypassing DRM is by itself not illegal in the EU)
You're wrong.
That's exactly the most illegal part of everything.

For instance, you can quite legally copy a CD or DVD and even give that copy to your friend. That's legal. Bypassing any copy protection systems, however, is illegal.

Then again, sharing stuff online is another matter altogether. Simply having some online instructions about bypassing DRM may in some cases be considered illegal. As tampering with DRM protection is illegal, it can be argued that instructions on how to do that are encouraging other people to commit a crime.
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JinKazaragi: It was kind of expected since he was way too careless with his personal data.

I'm not sure how far this'll go though, it might even be dropped after the investigation (depending on what the authorities find (as far a I know cracking or bypassing DRM is by itself not illegal in the EU) or if they even bother to pull it through, they wouldn't have acted without Denuvo complaining in the first place even though they easily could have).
Cracking itself is not illegal - distributing the game is. The police seized the server Voksi used to distribute the game. Things don't look good for him. It's very likely Denuvo will work out a deal where he can't crack games anymore.
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JinKazaragi: It was kind of expected since he was way too careless with his personal data.

I'm not sure how far this'll go though, it might even be dropped after the investigation (depending on what the authorities find (as far a I know cracking or bypassing DRM is by itself not illegal in the EU) or if they even bother to pull it through, they wouldn't have acted without Denuvo complaining in the first place even though they easily could have).
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tremere110: Cracking itself is not illegal - distributing the game is. The police seized the server Voksi used to distribute the game. Things don't look good for him. It's very likely Denuvo will work out a deal where he can't crack games anymore.
I didn't say what he did was entirely legal (even though it wasn't an entire game, just a few modified files.), I just doubt the authorities will bother more than absolutly necessary which is why the whole thing might be dropped in the end (it's not exactly a rare thing to happen, even if there is proof becasue they just don't see it worth the effort).
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JinKazaragi: (as far a I know cracking or bypassing DRM is by itself not illegal in the EU)
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PixelBoy: You're wrong.
That's exactly the most illegal part of everything.

For instance, you can quite legally copy a CD or DVD and even give that copy to your friend. That's legal. Bypassing any copy protection systems, however, is illegal.

Then again, sharing stuff online is another matter altogether. Simply having some online instructions about bypassing DRM may in some cases be considered illegal. As tampering with DRM protection is illegal, it can be argued that instructions on how to do that are encouraging other people to commit a crime.
Not quite, a common interpretation of the EU laws is that cracking DRM is only illegal if the DRM isn't ineefectve.
That means if it's cracked, it's proven ineffective which makes the cracking itself legal.
Post edited July 26, 2018 by JinKazaragi
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PixelBoy: You're wrong.
That's exactly the most illegal part of everything.

For instance, you can quite legally copy a CD or DVD and even give that copy to your friend. That's legal. Bypassing any copy protection systems, however, is illegal.
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JinKazaragi: Not quite, a common interpretation of the EU laws is that cracking DRM is only illegal if the DRM isn't ineefectve.
That means if it's cracked, it's proven ineffective which makes the cracking itself legal.
I have never heard of such interpretation, so I don't think it's very "common".
Also, such an interpretation wouldn't make any sense at all. It would basically mean that if you can crack a DRM, it's always legal to do so, because based on your(?) interpretation that DRM is not DRM. On the other hand, attempting and failing would not be illegal either, because if you can't crack it, you haven't bypassed it either.
This is why CYA tactics are important, no matter what you do.

Keep a low profile, and don't openly leave identifying material.
Even if there are clauses that might sometimes allow DRM to be cracked, these laws are designed specifically to apply in certain instances. Namely, the target is piracy, so an actual pirate isn't going to get away by claiming a technicality. This guy made a serious mistake promoting himself as the #1 Denuvo cracker in the world. It's hard to see a court or jury be sympathetic to him.
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JinKazaragi: It was kind of expected since he was way too careless with his personal data.
Yeah, this, he was way too careless, he was borderline asking for it. Maybe he hoped to land a job somewhere?
Ah well, it's not like there are too many Denuvo infected games that are worth more than a few pennies.
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DosFreak: I was able to tolerate buying the games if I could use the DRM emulation but this takes the cake. No more denuvo games for me. Good riddance. If there's a gofundme or something I may contribute. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
One thing to keep in mind, for those of us who buy DRM'd games expecting that if the DRM ever makes them unplayable the community will take care of it, is that those days are far ahead of us. In other words the day Dishonored 2 needs a community patch to remove Denuvo and make it playable on Windows 15 or whatever is a decade, if not longer, in our future. It's not today when companies like Denuvo and Bethesda are actively trying to stop it, it's many years down the road when they don't care, possible don't exist anymore and maybe even support it if they're still around.

That's not me defending Denuvo or DRM, I think they hurt consumers for little to no benefit and hurt game preservation, which I think is highly important. However I'm just making the point that shutting down a Denuvo cracker today is not really the same as shutting down the idea of Denuvo being tamed and removed for preservation in the future.
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DosFreak: I was able to tolerate buying the games if I could use the DRM emulation but this takes the cake. No more denuvo games for me. Good riddance. If there's a gofundme or something I may contribute. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
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StingingVelvet: One thing to keep in mind, for those of us who buy DRM'd games expecting that if the DRM ever makes them unplayable the community will take care of it, is that those days are far ahead of us. In other words the day Dishonored 2 needs a community patch to remove Denuvo and make it playable on Windows 15 or whatever is a decade, if not longer, in our future. It's not today when companies like Denuvo and Bethesda are actively trying to stop it, it's many years down the road when they don't care, possible don't exist anymore and maybe even support it if they're still around.

That's not me defending Denuvo or DRM, I think they hurt consumers for little to no benefit and hurt game preservation, which I think is highly important. However I'm just making the point that shutting down a Denuvo cracker today is not really the same as shutting down the idea of Denuvo being tamed and removed for preservation in the future.
Denuvo is a big issue because it is almost impossible to truly crack. It's been bypassed certainly but it still runs with the program it's protecting. With current hardware there isn't much difference. In the future with processors and hardware incompatible with Denuvo, it may mean the only way to run a game protected by Denuvo is to remove it instead of using a bypass. This may prove to be very difficult - perhaps even too difficult. There is a chance that Games protected by Denuvo could be very well not playable in the future.
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tremere110: Denuvo is a big issue because it is almost impossible to truly crack. It's been bypassed certainly but it still runs with the program it's protecting. With current hardware there isn't much difference. In the future with processors and hardware incompatible with Denuvo, it may mean the only way to run a game protected by Denuvo is to remove it instead of using a bypass. This may prove to be very difficult - perhaps even too difficult. There is a chance that Games protected by Denuvo could be very well not playable in the future.
I'm not technical enough to really thoroughly argue such things. I just know I have a lot of faith in the PC community. ;)
This is pretty hilarious. It was good schadenfreude following the Jurassic World Evolution crackwatch thread last month. That's also where i saw the name Voksi first. Seems he was about the only one cracking Denuvo atm, or at least at a good pace, but JWE kept being skipped over so people started spamming him till the point where he got so annoyed he said he'd delay cracking it every time someone spammed him about it.

Now he had finally committed himself to cracking it after more than a month after release and then he gets sued :D

Without this guy I'm not sure there's someone actively cracking Denuvo atm. Interesting times.
1) Denuvo is bad and anti-consumer. There is no denying this. They are the enemies of the people as any DRm developer.
whyisdenuvobad.github.io

2) The kid was talented enough to crack it but he was stupid enough to care more about likes and shit and being in the spotlight than his own safety and security. He should have learned from the Scene in this regard. Linux tails? Whonix? Veracrypt? i2p? Hello?

I always thought the way he behaved and operated so publicly was utterly bizarre and suicidal.

3) Now Denuvo's rep will be even worse than before which is a good thing.

3) Good luck to him