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Posted February 27, 2023
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mqstout: And, aside, the offline installers should properly be shimmed such that they can't block like this. It should accept all the Galaxy calls and immediately reply with "OK!" for things like this.
That'd require the offline and Galaxy versions to be different, and those changes to be maintained for each update. Far more of a problem than requiring devs to code the games so if Galaxy isn't running those calls to it are ignored.
Posted February 27, 2023
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mqstout: And, aside, the offline installers should properly be shimmed such that they can't block like this. It should accept all the Galaxy calls and immediately reply with "OK!" for things like this.
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Cavalary: That'd require the offline and Galaxy versions to be different, and those changes to be maintained for each update. Far more of a problem than requiring devs to code the games so if Galaxy isn't running those calls to it are ignored.
It'd all be on GOG's side, for the galaxy.dll. Is it not better to foolproof Galaxy and make it not able to be used as DRM?
Posted February 27, 2023
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Cavalary: That'd require the offline and Galaxy versions to be different, and those changes to be maintained for each update. Far more of a problem than requiring devs to code the games so if Galaxy isn't running those calls to it are ignored.
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mqstout: It'd all be on GOG's side, for the galaxy.dll. Is it not better to foolproof Galaxy and make it not able to be used as DRM?
That'd imply them wanting that...
Posted February 27, 2023
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Cavalary: That'd require the offline and Galaxy versions to be different, and those changes to be maintained for each update. Far more of a problem than requiring devs to code the games so if Galaxy isn't running those calls to it are ignored.
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mqstout: It'd all be on GOG's side, for the galaxy.dll. Is it not better to foolproof Galaxy and make it not able to be used as DRM?
But using Galaxy as DRM is what GOG eventually wants...
Posted February 27, 2023
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Lifthrasil: But using Galaxy as DRM is what GOG eventually wants...
Before going into conspiracy theories, did anybody who own the game created a ticket on Gog ? at least so that Gog is aware that there is an issue.

I can do it myself but not before the end of the week.
Post edited February 27, 2023 by Gersen
Posted February 27, 2023
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Gersen: Before going into conspiracy theories, did anybody who own the game created a ticket on Gog ? at least so that Gog is aware that there is an issue.
Yes.

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mqstout: EDIT2: Another ticket opened. This is at least 3 now [not that GOG lets you check unless you mine through your emails, because, for whatever reason, they disabled the 'view my tickets' page]... I'm really getting rather upset over here.
Posted March 10, 2023
I got two worrying reports, one concerning The Witcher 3, and one concerning Galaxy.

1. One user reported that The Witcher 3 can't be installed without Galaxy anymore. The most recent offline installers apparently contain that 'update' apparently. Can someone please cross-check, whether the current offline installers are still clean or whether they actually contain Galaxy or a Galaxy dependency? Maybe it was a bug that affected this user. But maybe it's the next step towards making Galaxy mandatory

2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
Posted March 10, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I got two worrying reports, one concerning The Witcher 3, and one concerning Galaxy.

1. One user reported that The Witcher 3 can't be installed without Galaxy anymore. The most recent offline installers apparently contain that 'update' apparently. Can someone please cross-check, whether the current offline installers are still clean or whether they actually contain Galaxy or a Galaxy dependency? Maybe it was a bug that affected this user. But maybe it's the next step towards making Galaxy mandatory

2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
What the heck!? That would definitly mean end of DRM-free GOG.
Can somebody please confirm these allegations.
I would test The Witcher 3, but suffer from slow inet connection currently...
Posted March 10, 2023
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Lifthrasil: 2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
Well the answer is neither. I just tried with Galaxy 2.0.60 Beta, the latest version from 28th of February, and the donwloader functionality is still there and at the exact place it always was. (i.e. in the "Extra" tab)

I will try to test W3 this weekend if I have time unless somebody test it before me.
Posted March 10, 2023
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Lifthrasil: 2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
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Gersen: Well the answer is neither. I just tried with Galaxy 2.0.60 Beta, the latest version from 28th of February, and the donwloader functionality is still there and at the exact place it always was. (i.e. in the "Extra" tab)

I will try to test W3 this weekend if I have time unless somebody test it before me.
Thank you for checking. This is weird. I'll ask the person who reported the Galaxy issue in which version it occurred.
Posted March 10, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I got two worrying reports, one concerning The Witcher 3, and one concerning Galaxy.

1. One user reported that The Witcher 3 can't be installed without Galaxy anymore. The most recent offline installers apparently contain that 'update' apparently. Can someone please cross-check, whether the current offline installers are still clean or whether they actually contain Galaxy or a Galaxy dependency? Maybe it was a bug that affected this user. But maybe it's the next step towards making Galaxy mandatory

2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
Galaxy 2.0.60 here on Windows 11 - Offline Downloaders download options shown as always (checked for several games here). So ya can confirm it behaves normal and as exactly as for Gersen
Posted March 10, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I got two worrying reports, one concerning The Witcher 3, and one concerning Galaxy.

1. One user reported that The Witcher 3 can't be installed without Galaxy anymore. The most recent offline installers apparently contain that 'update' apparently. Can someone please cross-check, whether the current offline installers are still clean or whether they actually contain Galaxy or a Galaxy dependency? Maybe it was a bug that affected this user. But maybe it's the next step towards making Galaxy mandatory

2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
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TT_TT_TT_TT: Galaxy 2.0.60 here on Windows 11 - Offline Downloaders download options shown as always (checked for several games here). So ya can confirm it behaves normal and as exactly as for Gersen
Thank you. That's a relief.
Not that I use Galaxy, but I would hate it if GOG would try to hide the offline installers further.
Post edited March 10, 2023 by Lifthrasil
Posted March 10, 2023
I don't own The Witcher 3, so I cannot comment on that one. However I can verify that this is not the case:

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Lifthrasil: 2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
If you click on a GOG game and select extras, the offline installers are still there. I'm assuming that the person reporting this got confused as thought they had the GOG version of a game (but didn't) or had multiple versions where the non-GOG version was selected.

If attached a screen shot of this for A Building Full of Cats, showing that you can download any extra items (such as a soundtrack) and the offline installers are below that.
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Posted March 11, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I got two worrying reports, one concerning The Witcher 3, and one concerning Galaxy.

1. One user reported that The Witcher 3 can't be installed without Galaxy anymore. The most recent offline installers apparently contain that 'update' apparently. Can someone please cross-check, whether the current offline installers are still clean or whether they actually contain Galaxy or a Galaxy dependency? Maybe it was a bug that affected this user. But maybe it's the next step towards making Galaxy mandatory

2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
Hi Lifthrasil

I have never used galaxy and am quite prepared to test this for the community.

I should point out though that I have completely abandoned the witcher 3 since gog introduced DRM in whatever guise they call it these days.

Which version of the the witcher 3 should I check?

I can test either as I have the pre- DRM version archived.

Should I test the version listed as current or the version listed in extras as GOTY version?
Posted March 11, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I got two worrying reports, one concerning The Witcher 3, and one concerning Galaxy.

1. One user reported that The Witcher 3 can't be installed without Galaxy anymore. The most recent offline installers apparently contain that 'update' apparently. Can someone please cross-check, whether the current offline installers are still clean or whether they actually contain Galaxy or a Galaxy dependency? Maybe it was a bug that affected this user. But maybe it's the next step towards making Galaxy mandatory

2. I also got the report that the recent Galaxy update removed the Downloader functionality from Galaxy. I.e. you can't download the offline installers through Galaxy anymore. Just the direct installation through Galaxy remained. Is that true or did GOG 'only' hide the Downloader functionality?
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lazydog: Hi Lifthrasil

I have never used galaxy and am quite prepared to test this for the community.

I should point out though that I have completely abandoned the witcher 3 since gog introduced DRM in whatever guise they call it these days.

Which version of the the witcher 3 should I check?

I can test either as I have the pre- DRM version archived.

Should I test the version listed as current or the version listed in extras as GOTY version?
Yes, it was reported for the most recent TW3 version. So if you have the bandwidth to download it, it would be great if you could test the current version, not the old GOTY version.
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