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General discussionDRM on GOG: list of single-player games with DRM(1675 posts)(1675 posts)
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Posted April 19, 2023
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MarkoH01: Wow ... is this really you, Gersen? It is so ... not neutral .... so emotional - quite unntypical - but of course I do agree :)
Well I wouldn't say "emotional", more "increasingly exasperated for things that Gog could easily do better" :-)

I can understand that sometime comprises needs to be made to a certain extent given Gog market share, or that sometime it might takes a couple of days longer for a indy devs to fix the Gog version compared to the Steam one....

...but months of radio silence from support and no fix in sight is another thing altogether and this one is 100% Gog's fault. And it's not for just games I am also still waiting for a fix for my "search is broken issue" that forces me to go through Galaxy to download anything. It's not really Covid time anymore so their support should have caught up by now.
Posted April 19, 2023
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00063: Can't believe no one mentioned FORCED SHOWDOWN.

The game has essential "free" cosmetic content locked online!
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Just a question: is that multiplayer content? Or single player content that is made only available online?


As for the Cult of the Lamb issue, I think by now it is safe to say that, even if the DRM was put in accidentally, the devs left it in intentionally. They were informed if the issue long ago and it persists. And GOG support ignores the issue

Is that impression correct?
Posted April 20, 2023
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Magnitus: Wow. this is pretty god d*mn awful.

If they don't fix it soon, GOG should offer a refund to its users for that game. It has no place in this store. It is on the same level as Hitman.

I'll try this game during the week and if I encounter that problem, I'll give a piece of my mind both to the developer and GOG.
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MarkoH01: one of the team marked as devs said:

"The developers definitely fixed this one internally, you'll see it fixed in Relics of the Old Faith. "
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Catventurer: Relics of the Old Faith is the official name of Cult of the Lamb's 1.1.1 content update.
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octalot: It's not 1.1.1. The patchnotes for both 1.1.0 and 1.1.1 are in the same news announcement on Jan 18th that announced that Relics of the Old Faith will be coming in early 2023.
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Lifthrasil: As for the Cult of the Lamb issue, I think by now it is safe to say that, even if the DRM was put in accidentally, the devs left it in intentionally. They were informed if the issue long ago and it persists. And GOG support ignores the issue
The Relics of the Old Faith DLC for Cult of the Lamb is supposed to launch on April 24. Someone should check if the DRM issue has been fixed then.
Posted April 20, 2023
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MarkoH01: one of the team marked as devs said:

"The developers definitely fixed this one internally, you'll see it fixed in Relics of the Old Faith. "
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(ø,ø):
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Lifthrasil: As for the Cult of the Lamb issue, I think by now it is safe to say that, even if the DRM was put in accidentally, the devs left it in intentionally. They were informed if the issue long ago and it persists. And GOG support ignores the issue
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(ø,ø): The Relics of the Old Faith DLC for Cult of the Lamb is supposed to launch on April 24. Someone should check if the DRM issue has been fixed then.
OK. Let's keep an eye on it then.
Posted April 20, 2023
First time poster, long time solo player of massive 4K sim games.

I run a totally air gaped (no internet or other systems connected in any way) 12 core window 10 system, with plenty of ram, HD space and graphic memory, and recently purchased Distant Worlds 2 from GOG, downloaded the offline installers with no problem and installed the game on my system.

There seems to be some hidden DRM within the game files because after a random time frame, my system just reboots, this does not happen with any of the other programs I have on this system, JUST with Distant Worlds 2.

My question to GOG.com personal because I can NOT find any means to call or talk to a live person, just an e-mail form that requires way to much personal and system info to even summit a question, is this, Why does GOG.com blandly lie/misrepresent facts when they say that their games are completely DRM free.

I did a search for Distant Worlds 2 problems within this forum before I posted this.
Posted April 20, 2023
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00063: Can't believe no one mentioned FORCED SHOWDOWN.

The game has essential "free" cosmetic content locked online!
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Lifthrasil: Just a question: is that multiplayer content? Or single player content that is made only available online?
The game doesn't have multiplayer. It used to have some daily reward challenges tied to GOG Galaxy (wonder if they bothered to remove proceed with Galaxy warning).

According to this post:
https://www.gog.com/forum/forced_showdown/cant_unlock_facebook_and_twitter_xiao_long_skins

you supposed to need a facebook and a twitter account to unlock those skins (according to the same post, that doesn't work) or as mentioned here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/forced_showdown/announcement_free_dlc_expanded_by_community_level_up/post4

you must contact the developers directly to get them, have no idea if this still works (or if ever did). If this doesn't count as DRM i don't know what does!
Posted April 20, 2023
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ascrollerscorner:
Just to be sure, did you check for any hardware issues that the game might somehow trigger? Temperatures and voltages, I mean. And see if you can find any log entries specifying the reason for the reboots, or anything happening just before that moment.

And you can just create a text file and upload it, no system info or anything else in it, when requested. Though in this case system info would be required, so may want to just read through the file and remove anything you don't want to send and isn't relevant, like usernames, MAC addresses and so on.
Posted April 21, 2023
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Lifthrasil: Just a question: is that multiplayer content? Or single player content that is made only available online?
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00063: The game doesn't have multiplayer. It used to have some daily reward challenges tied to GOG Galaxy (wonder if they bothered to remove proceed with Galaxy warning).

According to this post:
https://www.gog.com/forum/forced_showdown/cant_unlock_facebook_and_twitter_xiao_long_skins

you supposed to need a facebook and a twitter account to unlock those skins (according to the same post, that doesn't work) or as mentioned here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/forced_showdown/announcement_free_dlc_expanded_by_community_level_up/post4

you must contact the developers directly to get them, have no idea if this still works (or if ever did). If this doesn't count as DRM i don't know what does!
Yep. I'll add it to the list. Thank you for bringing it up.
Posted April 21, 2023
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Magnitus: Wow. this is pretty god d*mn awful.

If they don't fix it soon, GOG should offer a refund to its users for that game. It has no place in this store. It is on the same level as Hitman.

I'll try this game during the week and if I encounter that problem, I'll give a piece of my mind both to the developer and GOG.
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MarkoH01: I just looked up this issue in the linked thread in the Steam forum. It actually seems as if they really did this on purpose so that the game would crash if it could not detect if it is pirated or not - assuming that it is. We all know how devs did these things to prevent pirating in the past. DRM-free is based on TRUST and not on FORCE. So yes, this is textbook DRM. However since a user already posted there that they refunded the game one of the team marked as devs said:

"The developers definitely fixed this one internally, you'll see it fixed in Relics of the Old Faith. "

I don't own the game and I don't know what "Relics of the Old Faith" might be - I only know that I will never in my life support devs who add such functionality like crashing on purpose intentionally in their games. I could not care less if they wanted to prevent pirating with this. This is EXACTLY one reason why DRM is NOT the answer for the pirating problem - it simply hurts the buying customer as well. So I will take a look at the name of the dev to make sure to never ever spend a cent on any of their games. Call it collateral damage for them just as they were prepared to let their paying customers experiencing some collateral damage with their DRM infested game.

Edit: Apparently they also seem to delete comments and block users from posting in it ... just confirmation that these are not the devs I'd like to support.
It does appear to have been intentional.

If they don't fix it within a reasonable delay (haven't decided how long, maybe 1-2 months tops I think), for sure, I'll give them the "1 star + ask for refund + never buy from them again" treatment. In the interim I wrote to them, they haven't replied yet (which is not a good sign).

Even if they do fix it, it will be a "forgive, but not forget" kind of situation for me where I'll just wait for a while after any of their future games are released that everything is kosher so to speak and also for a nice discount. That will be consequence enough I think.

Overall, I care more about the drm-free ecosystem than individual devs. I think it is better for that ecosystem if we can forgive to some extent, provided that the dev is willing to make it right (if they don't, then that's another story). Carrot and stick so to speak.
Post edited April 21, 2023 by Magnitus
Posted April 22, 2023
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00063: you must contact the developers directly to get them, have no idea if this still works (or if ever did). If this doesn't count as DRM i don't know what does!
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Lifthrasil: Yep. I'll add it to the list. Thank you for bringing it up.
I would say it's more a "second class citizen" issue rather than an online requirement, given that it doesn't seem to work at all regardless if you are online or not and you have to contact the devs to be able to unlock it on the Gog version.

EDIT: I checked a little more, there is nothing in the game to "unlock" the free skin even if you are online, there is a button mentioning goodies but the only thing it does is opening a browser to the dev site. From the Steam thread is seems that the only thing they did was, once you register to their newsletter, sending you a Steam key that woul add the DLC to the game similar to if it was a "purchasable" DLC.

I might try to contact them to see if it is actually possible to optain this skin on the Gog version.
Post edited April 22, 2023 by Gersen
Posted April 22, 2023
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Lifthrasil: Yep. I'll add it to the list. Thank you for bringing it up.
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Gersen: I would say it's more a "second class citizen" issue rather than an online requirement, given that it doesn't seem to work at all regardless if you are online or not and you have to contact the devs to be able to unlock it on the Gog version.

EDIT: I checked a little more, there is nothing in the game to "unlock" the free skin even if you are online, there is a button mentioning goodies but the only thing it does is opening a browser to the dev site. From the Steam thread is seems that the only thing they did was, once you register to their newsletter, sending you a Steam key that woul add the DLC to the game similar to if it was a "purchasable" DLC.

I might try to contact them to see if it is actually possible to optain this skin on the Gog version.
OK. thank you for the correction!
Posted April 22, 2023
I can't edit my opening post anymore.I tried yesterday and today to add something about Forced Showdown. However, after posting the edit, no change shows up in the thread.

For the record, I wanted to post this as a note:

Forced Showdown - the game contains a warning that you need to be online via Galaxy to access some cosmetic bonus content. However, that doesn't work, even with Galaxy. So by design that content would be DRMed. But in reality it is just not there at the moment.
Posted April 22, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I can't edit my opening post anymore.I tried yesterday and today to add something about Forced Showdown. However, after posting the edit, no change shows up in the thread.
Character limit, 9916/10000 at the moment from what I see.
Posted April 22, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I can't edit my opening post anymore.I tried yesterday and today to add something about Forced Showdown. However, after posting the edit, no change shows up in the thread.
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Cavalary: Character limit, 9916/10000 at the moment from what I see.
Ah! Thanks. I'll have to make the other entries more concise then.
Posted April 22, 2023
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Lifthrasil: I can't edit my opening post anymore.I tried yesterday and today to add something about Forced Showdown. However, after posting the edit, no change shows up in the thread.

Ah! Thanks. I'll have to make the other entries more concise then.
This stuff is one of the reasons why I went with Google Sheets for the old DRM-Free games on Epic thread and simply link to it in post #1. Once you go over GOG forums character limits, you have to start splitting lists in multiple posts. If there aren't any "reserved" posts in post 3, 4, 5, etc, of page 1, then part 2 can end up on page 24. It can get very messy. Different lists (single player, legacy, multi-player, etc) can be put in different tabs of the same sheet, plus it can be downloaded for offline reference / backup in case the thread gets deleted. Hopefully the list won't grow and grow, but putting it in a spreadsheet and linking to it in post 1 is one alternative if it does.
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