Yep, as I said this would still be limited compared to what one can do with win32 and an open enviroment. However, for most cases (think Skyrim where modding is huge) this system would work fine for allowing new weapons, or quest, or even complete conversions.

Ok, I took your original message as "Don't fret about modding, UWP allows it too". As far as I can tell, it doesn't, when we talk about PC modding that goes way beyond level editors and such. Low-level changing of the core of the game itself.

I never had any doubts that UWP games would also have level editors and other possibilities for the users to create new content for the games, but as said, "PC modding" goes beyond that.

Whether the lack of it affects the adoption of UWP games, that's another thing. It is still a bit a niche thing and possibly most don't care enough, especially as many publishers overhaul their old games anyway, creating remakes of them.

I just wish the big game publishers (EA, Ubisoft, Activision etc.) would deem it important enough to have and secure open "open system" where they can even sell their games completely independently, if they so choose, like they now can with EA Origin, UPlay etc. What that would mean in practice, I don't know; trying to co-operate with some Linux distro (could be SteamOS, but then I presume SteamOS favors Steam storefront similarly as Windows 10 favors the Windows Store). A PC OS that would be a demilitarized zone, so to speak.

Earlier it was easier when MS didn't try to act as a game store owner as well, but now things are different. Not sure if those publishers are willing to go to such venture or rather just concentrate on publishing games through whatever store or platform, and I admit the ability to easily create a game both for XBox and PC with UWP could be too hard to resist for many.

If I'd have to guess, EA would possibly be the most willing for such venture, as they seem to have invested the most in their own storefront and client, of all the big game publishers. Even refusing to sell their newer games on the dominant PC gaming service, Steam.

So far Valve seems to have been alerted the most of the threat of Windows Store to their income and position, in their role as the dominant PC gaming service.

And naturally MS is keenly watching others' actions and reacting to it, like going back and forth with their walled garden plans.

MS and GOG still haven't implemented a PROPER fix for ALONE IN THE DARK 4 yet so sick of using the Mexican/Spanish exe

Windows 10 is mostly cloud-dependant, advertising-bloated shit.


Sent from my Windows 10 computer.

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Even THAT won't help. I've tried that fix before and good lord you will have a crash error in one important section of the game.

Afaik UWP is the only place which ya can play DirectX 12 based games.

DX12 is baked into Windows 10.

UWP is not reqiured to take advantage of DX12 as games already use DX12 such as

Ashes of the Singularity
Total War Warhammer
Civ 6

You might be thinking that due to Quantum Break's inexplicable reasons why DX12 is supported in the UWP version but not the Steam one. There is literally no technical reason to do this as again DX12 doesnt' care about the 'wrapper' around the executable. Its purely a pipeline API and there aren't any DX12 calls that are only implemented in UWP. They're basically just being paid a boat load of money from Microsoft to make DX12 UWP exclusive for no technical reason other than "we can"

The direction still seems to be the same, MS wants Windows to be a closed garden where MS Store is the default place to get your software:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WB9TXrszfM

All hail @timppu, the undead sorcerer.
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10X or 10S, does it matter what they call it? Perfect if you actually want Linux but very annoying if you want a full Windows with which you can play GOG games.

Alright so after watching the video, it is a bit more complicated than that.

Not gonna watch some random dude's ranty Youtube video, but does he address how MS have made a special point to support Steam recently, and surely see the vast majority of their sales come from there?

Actually he doesn't seem to mind it, just states that that is where MS apparently is heading, ever since Windows 8 and especially Windows RT.

Also, Valve hasn't invested so much to Linux gaming over the years just because they feel Linux is so cool. They are concerned, as they should be. At the same time though, MS clearly understands they have to get there with baby steps, that much Windows RT taught them.

Maybe that is why MS has suddenly "invested" on Steam, in trying to curb Valve's Linux developments. Maybe MS did also get a bit concerned of Valve's investments on Linux gaming. :)

Better to contain the discussion in one thread, rather than starting five or more GOG Downloader threads. :)

I think under Phil Spencer they have come to realize how important PC gaming is to Windows, and I doubt they restrict it to the Windows Store any time soon. I doubt they even could if they wanted to, Steam is too powerful and Windows Store is too well know as being shite. Maybe it's something to worry about a decade or two from now, but I wouldn't sweat it for a long time. I'd much more worry about streaming exclusives than Windows Store exclusives.

Is windows 10 a sideline for Phil?
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