Brasas: So you consider they didn't choose to release Win10 for free? Someone put a gun to their head and forced them to do it or something? The fact they decided to do it under higher or lower pressure from the market does not change that they likely think it's a good move for themselves and consciously pursued such a strategy - it wasn't a coerced decision.
Then if you want to be a little bit pedantic about people not choosing windows because of it being preloaded - which is misleading despite being strictly true, then I can riposte that people choose to keep Windows installed by huge margins. One could say they accept it. Are all of them fanboys as you've implied?
Or are you actually trying to convince anyone here that Windows is not the dominant OS for desktop and laptop? Ergo, outside of mobility areas where Android dominates.
Basically, what do you base the statement / opinion of Win10 not being decent? Kindly park the privacy / spyware arguments and give me something else. Because as mentioned the GOG concern with spyware is atypical of normal users which divulge all sorts of personal information from Facebook to Google and elsewhere around - that cat is well out of the bag and I expect will not have any meaningful negative market impact - rather the opposite as for Enterprises the Win10 approach is a plus.
Bottom line is that the market reception I see is that Win8 UI went too far and adoption suffered hugely because of that, but Win10 pretty much managed to find a much better sweet spot. Ergo decent enough - decent does not mean excellent or great obviously.
Or actually, don't bother please? I don't think we need to rehash a Win10 pro or con debate. We clearly agree Win10 is not a threat to GOG or Steam, despite disagreeing why. I think MS doesn't particularly care about gaming nor online retail, you think MS is a clown show. I'm fine with leaving it like that.
They didn't really have much choice about releasing it for free. Between OSX and Linux the competition is a lot more stiff than it used to be. Windows 10 is better than 8, but it's not anywhere near as good as Vista or 7. And yes, I do mean Vista, they got that one straightened out eventually.
Holding off on the release until the OS actually got good wasn't an option as people are already realizing that they don't have to upgrade just because MS releases a new version.
You can argue that people choose to keep the Windows install, but it's asinine to suggest that means anything. That's sloth. Windows is the default install and most people are not competent enough to install something other than what's installed by default. That's been MS' bread and butter for decades now. Bully their way onto OEM installs knowing that most people aren't going to install something else unless the OS is complete shit. Most people do not use Windows because it's good, they use it because it's automatically installed on most computers. Hell, a large portion of the user base wouldn't even know that Windows was on the computer if there wasn't that huge splash screen informing them of that every time they turned it on.
Cynical perhaps, but completely consistent with all the people I've had to help deal with MS' numerous unpatched bugs.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that people are accepting Windows 10. That's a bit like suggesting that because this car just breaks down randomly rather than also catching on fire that the automaker is on the right track. No, the automaker is still incompetent, it's just that its cars are no longer killing people. Same basic thing here. The computers that came preloaded with 7 are starting to break down and people are grateful to have something other than 8 to get preloaded on them. I don't see anything in 10 to be proud of other than the fact that it's not 8.
I agree that 10 isn't a threat to GOG or Steam, mostly because I don't think it's a threat to anybody. A larger and larger portion of the computing public is using tablets and smartphones, and MS isn't a viable contender there at the present. I doubt that they will be anytime soon either. They just don't have the 3rd party app support necessary to compete. I remember when I got my Nexus One all those years ago and the App store was still significantly better than whatever Google was calling there's at the time. And the difference right now is even bigger.
As far as decency of OS goes, try using the other options and try and say that Windows is decent with a straight face. I just can't imagine how anybody could do that. The only reason to choose to get a Windows computer is for games. That's it. I have a hard time coming up with anything about Windows that's particularly special or ahead of the game. MS has always made money by copying other people's ideas and then convincing systems integrators to put their OS on it, rather than something that's actually good. It's the same now as it was nearly 25 years ago when Win 3.1 came out.
hedwards: Sure, those are things we can do without, but what about the necessities of life like porn?
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Damned cats, you know if it weren't for them, I would have a girlfriend.