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TapeWorm: I very rarely post here anymore. This whole thread is why. Gog has got to have one of the most toxic forums I've ever seen. I remember way back when the site first opened, this particular forum was great, and there was very little need for moderation.

What happened? This is just disgusting.
Honestly, this is just a pretty extreme example of something I've seen happen across the world in the last 5 or 6 years. I don't think that there are more toxic people than there were but they have all got a lot louder. There are a few events I can think of but won't name directly due to the rules. :P
Post edited July 02, 2021 by my name is capitayn catte
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SmollestLight: Unfortunately, this has gotten really political :( Please move everything to private conversations. I will leave the posts instead of moderating them for now, so you know where you left of with the other user.
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TapeWorm: I very rarely post here anymore. This whole thread is why. Gog has got to have one of the most toxic forums I've ever seen. I remember way back when the site first opened, this particular forum was great, and there was very little need for moderation.

What happened? This is just disgusting.

Please shut this thread down (hell just delete it). There is no civil discourse here, there's no 'opinion' here, there's nothing of value here at all, it's all just hate spewed.

Gog is just fucking disgusting for allowing this.

[Moderated by SmollestLight: Please refrain from insulting other users]
That is a lie aside from afew posters most here has been civil and not hateful
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MeowCanuck: The pastors weren't persecuted for their religion, though. It was for their repeated offenses for blatantly disregarding public health orders, not because they were Christian.
When members of one religious group are arrested and harassed for practicing their faith and others aren't, that is very much a religious issue, wouldn't you say? Again, the pastors were politically, forcefully and disproportionately prosecuted, whereas the mosques and pro-Palestine protesters got off scott-free. Do you really not see the problem, let alone the gross double standards here?

I believe they're working on it. Not that your or my thoughts on this matter as this is an Australian issue that should be solved by Australian people.
No one is claiming otherwise. My point remains made by virtue of the very lack of provision for religious discrimination.

He wasn't fired for his religious beliefs, but dismissed on the grounds of gross misconduct. It's because his bosses told him to teach the new curriculum and he actively disobeyed orders and voiced dissent in meetings. He could've refused or quit out of protest, but instead he actively undermined the policy.
Do pardon my French, and please don't take this as directed at you personally, but that's bovine manure. It's sophisticating around the issue to skirt the central point, much like teacher who was also fired for "gross misconduct". Whereas, if you show a picture of a certain prophet, the school will fall over itself to apologize and happily throw the blasphemer to the [url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/29/fear-will-murdered-batley-teacher-tells-father-amid-worries/]wolves.
(And yes, the three matters are entirely unrelated. I mean only to illustrate that "gross misconduct" has nothing to do with it).

Prevent is a program that looks after both violent and non-violent extremism and it's up to their courts to determine if he was falsely flagged.
That's not how a non-oppressive society works. You don't need "courts" to determine if a Christian chaplain delivering a sermon about the Christian viewpoint on identity questions qualifies as extremism.

How are case proceedings irrelevant if they set precedents for other similar cases within regional jurisdictions? This is how legal systems are designed to work.
Forgive me, but it feels like you're caught up in legalese or overlooking the point. As evidenced by the search results I sent you, the ACLU is waging targeted lawfare that doesn't care about precedents, hunting for technicalities and amenable judges and returning to the fray whenever they fail to do so.

So do you have any evidence that there's systemic mistreatment investigating crimes against places of worship with different religious affiliations? Or is this your perception from news articles?
Yes, looking at events throughout the West and seeing the pattern. The double standards on hate crimes may be glossed over or outright denied by academia and secular observers, but are no less evident for it. Once again, because any vandalized mosque or synagogue immediately leads to thorough investigations, condemnation and contrition, with full mobilization of resources, self-flagellation of heads of state and stern, serious looks of TV anchors as they ominously describe the vile crimes that are oh-so inconceivable in the 21st century. Whereas the victims of anti-Christian attacks are lucky if the perpetrators are ever caught, let alone properly convicted.

Oh, and I forgot to include the source for the said "polite persecution" in my previous post. [url=Here]https://acninternational.org/religiousfreedomreport/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Executive-Summary-2021-EN-single-pages-small.pdf[/url] you go (page 38).

Hate-motivated crime is difficult to define based on different countries and their laws. In all those cases you've replied to, they were all investigated fairly to see if it was a hate crime. Like all cases, sufficient evidence must be collected before charges can be laid by prosecution.
Indeed. But only if crosses are involved. Stars and crescents earn the "hate crime" badge by default, often a priori.
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TapeWorm: I very rarely post here anymore. This whole thread is why. Gog has got to have one of the most toxic forums I've ever seen. I remember way back when the site first opened, this particular forum was great, and there was very little need for moderation.

What happened? This is just disgusting.

Please shut this thread down (hell just delete it). There is no civil discourse here, there's no 'opinion' here, there's nothing of value here at all, it's all just hate spewed.

Gog is just fucking disgusting for allowing this.

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BanditKeith2: That is a lie aside from afew posters most here has been civil and not hateful
You consider unabashed bigotry to be civil? That's pretty telling.

Those are all on the first fucking page. And then there's this pearnon character who's trying to say being against bigotry is bigotry (which is a tactic of the extreme right wing bigots)... So, who's lying? Is it a lie because you're incapable of understanding how this could even be bigotry or related to pro bigotry stances?

The fact that this garbage fire thread exists is why pride is still needed. And yet the person who originally posted this garbage tried to paint it as "having politics shoved in their face" (they even edited their message, so who knows how bad it was initially). It has nothing to do with politics, you know it, I know it, they know it. The whole thing is a dog whistle.

This is not the first time I've seen this kind of garbage on here, and up until now I've said nothing. But now I am, and I think the mods ARE NOT doing their jobs if they're not knocking garbage like this out early on.
Post edited July 03, 2021 by TapeWorm
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BanditKeith2: That is a lie aside from afew posters most here has been civil and not hateful
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TapeWorm: You consider unabashed bigotry to be civil? That's pretty telling.

Those are all on the first fucking page. And then there's this pearnon character who's trying to say being against bigotry is bigotry (which is a tactic of the extreme right wing bigots)... So, who's lying? Is it a lie because you're incapable of understanding how this could even be bigotry or related to pro bigotry stances?

The fact that this garbage fire thread exists is why pride is still needed. And yet the person who originally posted this garbage tried to paint it as "having politics shoved in their face" (they even edited their message, so who knows how bad it was initially). It has nothing to do with politics, you know it, I know it, they know it. The whole thing is a dog whistle.

This is not the first time I've seen this kind of garbage on here, and up until now I've said nothing. But now I am, and I think the mods ARE NOT doing their jobs if they're not knocking garbage like this out early on.
Actualy it is poltical as a side affect of people who made LGBTQ+ matters political for a long time and what I was talking about most of what was talking about in this thread was not bigotery .. up till like 2 or so pages back.. most was talking about the distaste of corptitizeding pride month and people who hate the fact the corptized fact is mostly a ''hey these folks or those they support we can get extra money this month and act like we truly care when we don't factor'' among other things

Also there is being against bigtory and then their is being intolerant and hateful to those who could get swayed to not be bigoted .. Which is sorta bigoted in itself on the later because its mindlessly hating the otherrather then trying to prove them wrong and change them for the better..

Also it was not the op who edited it but a mod atleast at first .. so it wasn't the op thus thats factual incorret to say the op themselves did the edit at first unsure if the op edited after a mod had though ..
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TapeWorm: bigotry bigotry bigotry bigots bigotry bigotry garbage garbage garbage garbage
Dude, get a thesaurus or something!
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PanzerFranzz: [Moderated by SmollestLight: Inappropriate as well as stirring a political discussion which has nothing to do with a video game, which is against COC]
The guy might be a bigot, not sure from his post but come on, you are baiting people into such a discussion here.
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BanditKeith2: That is a lie aside from afew posters most here has been civil and not hateful
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TapeWorm: You consider unabashed bigotry to be civil? That's pretty telling.

Those are all on the first fucking page. And then there's this pearnon character who's trying to say being against bigotry is bigotry (which is a tactic of the extreme right wing bigots)... So, who's lying? Is it a lie because you're incapable of understanding how this could even be bigotry or related to pro bigotry stances?

The fact that this garbage fire thread exists is why pride is still needed. And yet the person who originally posted this garbage tried to paint it as "having politics shoved in their face" (they even edited their message, so who knows how bad it was initially). It has nothing to do with politics, you know it, I know it, they know it. The whole thing is a dog whistle.

This is not the first time I've seen this kind of garbage on here, and up until now I've said nothing. But now I am, and I think the mods ARE NOT doing their jobs if they're not knocking garbage like this out early on.
Oh and odds are I will step away now as I don't feel like you or me will see eye to eye here and I don't want to keep this thread alive anymore myself as this thread had went away from civil discourse at a piont earler and it has yet to get back on track as a whole it seems
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morolf: You also called people Nazis (despite nobody having expressed any positive view of Nazism in this thread, and no, being critical of today's LGBTQ movement doesn't equal Nazism). I hope you get at least temporarily banned for this, otherwise one would have to conclude that Gog enforces the code of conduct in an extremely biased way.
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TheEndedSkull: Another post earlier in the thread said:

"Gog is becoming more extremist left as the time goes by. Just wait for their "Kill the 'Nazi'" games selection sale."

Does that not seem a bit odd to you, to suggest that the promotion of killing Nazis is "extremist left"? Granted, a sale like that might be a bit cringey, but it stands out to me that there are people here who would frame being anti-Nazi as an extreme political position.
We apparently live in a society where "Kill members of X group" isn't an extremist stance.
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TapeWorm: I very rarely post here anymore. This whole thread is why. Gog has got to have one of the most toxic forums I've ever seen. I remember way back when the site first opened, this particular forum was great, and there was very little need for moderation.

What happened? This is just disgusting.
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my name is capitayn catte: Honestly, this is just a pretty extreme example of something I've seen happen across the world in the last 5 or 6 years. I don't think that there are more toxic people than there were but they have all got a lot louder. There are a few events I can think of but won't name directly due to the rules. :P
I know what you mean. The cheek of calling this forum toxic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19gCdVJz3RE
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my name is capitayn catte: Honestly, this is just a pretty extreme example of something I've seen happen across the world in the last 5 or 6 years. I don't think that there are more toxic people than there were but they have all got a lot louder. There are a few events I can think of but won't name directly due to the rules. :P
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GOGuser736: I know what you mean. The cheek of calling this forum toxic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19gCdVJz3RE
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Post edited July 03, 2021 by my name is capitayn catte
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TapeWorm: And then there's this pearnon character who's trying to say being against bigotry is bigotry (which is a tactic of the extreme right wing bigots)...
Hi, this is pearnon. Nice to meet you.

It would appear that, in your "bigotry bigotry bigotry bigots bigotry bigotry garbage garbage garbage garbage" tirade, you completely missed the point while simultaneously making it for me. So thanks, I guess.
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TheEndedSkull: Another post earlier in the thread said:

"Gog is becoming more extremist left as the time goes by. Just wait for their "Kill the 'Nazi'" games selection sale."

Does that not seem a bit odd to you, to suggest that the promotion of killing Nazis is "extremist left"? Granted, a sale like that might be a bit cringey, but it stands out to me that there are people here who would frame being anti-Nazi as an extreme political position.
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Kaplau93: We apparently live in a society where "Kill members of X group" isn't an extremist stance.
Not per se. "kill terrorists" is the theme of many video games but nobody argues that Medal of Honor or Call of Duty are poltically extremist games, right?