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Posted August 24, 2017
Studying the anatomy of space demons.


<span class="bold">Doom 3: BFG Edition</span> is now available, DRM-free on GOG.com, with a 75% launch discount.
Back to reclaim its FPS throne, Doom 3 adds a strong dose of claustrophobic horror into the series' timeless cocktail of explosive action, horrific enemies, and ultra-violent massacre.

The BFG Edition is the game's remastered version, containing DOOM, DOOM II, DOOM 3, and DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, as well as The Lost Mission.

Feeling nostalgic or just awfully trigger-happy? Check out our <span class="bold">Bethesda shooters</span> sale.
The 75% discount will last until August 28, 1 PM UTC.
Posted August 25, 2017
Negative comments about DOOM 3 BFG are way overblown here. First of all more than half of the complaints about this version aren't even applicable anymore, as they were addressed in the first patch of the game five years ago.

I tried both games last night (DOOM3 vanilla, and DOOM3 BFG), about an hour each, and here are my observations

1) DOOM3 BFG runs much better. You can control texture-LOD, FOV, brightness etc all from the menu.
2) BFG edition is still relentlessly dark. There's no drop in tension and atmosphere.
Pity you didn't take screenshots side by side to show us.
Post edited August 25, 2017 by Spectre
Posted August 25, 2017
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noman: Negative comments about DOOM 3 BFG are way overblown here. First of all more than half of the complaints about this version aren't even applicable anymore, as they were addressed in the first patch of the game five years ago.

I tried both games last night (DOOM3 vanilla, and DOOM3 BFG), about an hour each, and here are my observations

1) DOOM3 BFG runs much better. You can control texture-LOD, FOV, brightness etc all from the menu.
2) BFG edition is still relentlessly dark. There's no drop in tension and atmosphere.
3) Flashlight addition is awesome. This is where DOOM 3 BFG is simply better than the original (unmodified) version. The flash light, only illuminates part of the screen, and charges down quickly too. Even when it's on, the overall image is still dark, and the tension about the monster closets remains the same. By the way, the flash light casts proper shadows and so do all the projectiles (imp's fireball for instance)
4) Sound effects seemed the same in both version. That could also be because I can't turn on EAX, as my XFi Titanium sound card recently died.

I uninstalled the DOOM3 vanilla version, and will try to finish the BFG edition.
What about mods ?
Posted August 25, 2017
shitty post, but I thought I saw someone in here mention a patch for the Steam version to kill off the DRM.

Am I hallucinating?
Posted August 25, 2017
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immortal1977: A some guy on one Russian forum thread stated against gog's Doom 3 BFG. He claims that Bethesda put some sort of online drm in it and his firewall detects some online checks every game start. If he is blocks this outgoing attempts, his game not even start at all. I'm never used any firewall software on windows myself, do anybody with good firewall can confirm if this is true or not?
I don't use a firewall, but i played the game offline, so i assume it's not true.
Posted August 25, 2017
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tinyE: shitty post, but I thought I saw someone in here mention a patch for the Steam version to kill off the DRM.

Am I hallucinating?
Luckily you weren't hallucinating - so no need to call the men in white :)
Here is what I wrote about patching the Steam version. If you should have questions feel free to send me a chat.
Posted August 25, 2017
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tinyE: shitty post, but I thought I saw someone in here mention a patch for the Steam version to kill off the DRM.

Am I hallucinating?
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MarkoH01: Luckily you weren't hallucinating - so no need to call the men in white :)
Here is what I wrote about patching the Steam version. If you should have questions feel free to send me a chat.
An alternative would be to use one of the updated engines (e.g. dhewm3 for the non BFG edition version).
Post edited August 25, 2017 by mk47at
Posted August 25, 2017
Thank you again, Bethesda! For all the pre-order season pass bs that has been creeping in your games. you still know the value of DRM-free.
Posted August 25, 2017
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tinyE: shitty post, but I thought I saw someone in here mention a patch for the Steam version to kill off the DRM.

Am I hallucinating?
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MarkoH01: Luckily you weren't hallucinating - so no need to call the men in white :)
Here is what I wrote about patching the Steam version. If you should have questions feel free to send me a chat.
Thanks Marko :D

Still using my Disc, but in the event something happens to that I'll need this.

What is SDK?
Post edited August 25, 2017 by tinyE
Posted August 25, 2017
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MarkoH01: Luckily you weren't hallucinating - so no need to call the men in white :)
Here is what I wrote about patching the Steam version. If you should have questions feel free to send me a chat.
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tinyE: Thanks Marko :D

Still using my Disc, but in the event something happens to that I'll need this.
Actually using the latest patch you should not even need your disc anymore afaik.

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tinyE: What is SDK?
Software Development Kit
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MarkoH01: Luckily you weren't hallucinating - so no need to call the men in white :)
Here is what I wrote about patching the Steam version. If you should have questions feel free to send me a chat.
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mk47at: An alternative would be to use one of the updated engines (e.g. dhewm3 for the non BFG edition version).
Yes, I heard about this alternative but I wonder if the game would still be in its original state if you use an alternate engine?
Post edited August 25, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted August 25, 2017
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MarkoH01: Yes, I heard about this alternative but I wonder if the game would still be in its original state if you use an alternate engine?
I haven't tried it (I've only played the BFG edition recently), but the list of changes makes it seem very faithful.
Posted August 25, 2017
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tinyE: Thanks Marko :D

Still using my Disc, but in the event something happens to that I'll need this.
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MarkoH01: Actually using the latest patch you should not even need your disc anymore afaik.

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tinyE: What is SDK?
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MarkoH01: Software Development Kit
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mk47at: An alternative would be to use one of the updated engines (e.g. dhewm3 for the non BFG edition version).
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MarkoH01: Yes, I heard about this alternative but I wonder if the game would still be in its original state if you use an alternate engine?
i don;t need my disc right now because of a NO CD patch, but don't tell anyone here that. :P
Posted August 25, 2017
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noman: Negative comments about DOOM 3 BFG are way overblown here. First of all more than half of the complaints about this version aren't even applicable anymore, as they were addressed in the first patch of the game five years ago.

I tried both games last night (DOOM3 vanilla, and DOOM3 BFG), about an hour each, and here are my observations

1) DOOM3 BFG runs much better. You can control texture-LOD, FOV, brightness etc all from the menu.
2) BFG edition is still relentlessly dark. There's no drop in tension and atmosphere.
3) Flashlight addition is awesome. This is where DOOM 3 BFG is simply better than the original (unmodified) version. The flash light, only illuminates part of the screen, and charges down quickly too. Even when it's on, the overall image is still dark, and the tension about the monster closets remains the same. By the way, the flash light casts proper shadows and so do all the projectiles (imp's fireball for instance)
4) Sound effects seemed the same in both version. That could also be because I can't turn on EAX, as my XFi Titanium sound card recently died.

I uninstalled the DOOM3 vanilla version, and will try to finish the BFG edition.
+1 to you, I have been trying to say this all along.

Too many people in this thread are putting people off buying a pretty good version.

Here is a youtube video that actually has in sync comparisons, this differs from many other out of sync videos and claims of "darker is better"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_IBimiQwRc

I am having an absolute blast playing this game again and it is in no way a mediocre version.
Posted August 25, 2017
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Leucius: Wow so I was all excited to buy the BFG edition and now I'm sadfaced and wanting to get a refund after reading this thread. :'(
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lazydog: Leucious

don't be put off by negative opinions. i have just come back to this thread after playing through more of the game and it is thoroughly enjoyable, just as good as I remember the original.

The largest single debate about this game is the torch. Love or hate: the ability to manually enable the torch whilst still bearing a weapon or being stuck with just the torch.

Whatever your opinion, the game was heavily criticised at release as being a dark-fest at the time, separately from the issue of torch only wielding. Their is more lighting now, but only in areas that had light before- you still will need to use the torch and in my opinion this does not distract from the atmosphere.

The game runs super smooth at 120fps, the checkpoints can be disabled, the FOV is adjustable.

Whilst some content has been removed, more has been added though I haven't got far enough yet to test either.

There is more ammo etc available- don't want it? Don't pick it up or ramp the difficulty.

OK there is no more EAX support but that is legacy issues with Microsoft and a separate debate.

Seriously, just fire it up and play it, I doubt you will be disappointed.
^^ Thoroughly agree with lazydog. Just picked it up today, and having played through the original quite some time ago, I am having a great time with playing again with this BFG edition. I can't say for sure, but it seems there may be some minor changes in the level design, but over all it is very familiar. At any rate, having played the original as well, I am none the less, enjoying playing BFG.
Posted August 26, 2017
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Painted_Doll: Any of you installed this BFG mod ?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-3-bfg-hi-def
Whaaa! It even supports Linux! This deserves to be added to header and reviews!

Looks like it even fixes the shadows and textures!
http://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-3-bfg-hi-def/videos/doom3bfg-high-def-31d-remastered



.... dang it, and as always, its regular modders saving the profits of lazy corporate a55e5.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by Lin545
Posted August 26, 2017
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antrad88: I just want to give my support to those requesting the original version of Doom 3 on GOG. The flashlight restriction in the original game was an important gameplay mechanic and part of the original design, without it it's just not the same game.
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darthspudius: Never in a million years did I think I would see so much of this silliness. The game was laughed at for the use of the flashlight, now people are crying for it back. I don't get it.
That is just a very loud minority that could not accept the fact the game isn't like the first two games. Doom 3 was critically acclaimed and is one of the best selling PC games in retail. You would be surprised how many people liked the game, then end up on random gaming forums after several years and hear people criticize it and are surprised by the fact. But if you stick around, you see it's always the exact same few people that write the same negative stuff over and over.

You can see this effect on modern social media or even in the Steam reviews. Few people can get "triggered" by silliest things and make a lot of noise, and media is fast to spread it and make "clickbait" articles and turn the whole thing into a scandal, while others simply enjoy the game for what it is and are not even aware of it.

Unfortunately, the new people who didn't even play it accept it as a fact, and here we are now in 2017; Doom 3 is considered a bad game and a joke in the series, until someone corrects them. Heck, you can end up with a group of people where Brutal Doom today is basically more "original Doom" than the 1993 version is, all the added gore infected somehow the people's minds. Talking loud and making a lot of noise can get you places, just look at Trump.

Sorry for the rant :(
Post edited August 26, 2017 by antrad88
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