Posted June 02, 2016
@JDelekto
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to tell me but I'll try to answer anyway.
JDelekto: I didn't take it as a slight against me at all. However, you have to realize that the world we live in today, a gallon of milk costs more than a gallon of gasoline (at least in my area).
I purchase a minimum of two gallons of milk per week. Now mind you, this is a cost that is recurring and it runs out; bladders get full and empty. However, If I pay even $14.99 for a game on GOG, I can be assured I can play it for weeks on end if I choose and the game is pretty good to begin with. So you're comparing basic foods with computer games. Ever tried to live on games alone? They doesn't taste very well, if at all and the food value is rather low...
JDelekto: When I see people come into a forum acting as if they are poor and need a hand-out, I question why they even have access to the internet in the first place. They're typically pre-teens who have access to their parents' computer (probably without permission) trying to gain insight into an online world which is probably more than they could or should be allowed to handle at their age. I don't understand why you bring this up? Are you implying that nobody here in the forum is really poor?
JDelekto: What is a luxury, in my opinion, is being able to live in a society which fosters freedom, but at the same time makes one aware of their responsibility. Being a responsible person in a completely free world is not only a difficult thing to accomplish, but a necessity. Ok, now comes the really complicated part.
What is freedom and who is really free? According to this definition especially to the points 3, 6 and 7, if I understand them correctly, is someone who has responsibilities, not really free. A person living in true freedom is according to this definition not really someone likeable because he or she wouldn't care about ones feelings or whether their actions would harm anyone or not. Those fictional people would also not let themself be restrained by low instincts like hunger, thirst, etc.
That makes it rather questionable if true freedom is really desirable or realistic for individuals or the society. Which makes the demand by neoliberals for total freedom from any restraints by government, laws, society, etc. completely silly.
So this means that we aren't in a completely free world, quite the opposite. And of course do we all have responsibilities, to our families, friends, relatives, society, etc.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to tell me but I'll try to answer anyway.
I purchase a minimum of two gallons of milk per week. Now mind you, this is a cost that is recurring and it runs out; bladders get full and empty. However, If I pay even $14.99 for a game on GOG, I can be assured I can play it for weeks on end if I choose and the game is pretty good to begin with.
What is freedom and who is really free? According to this definition especially to the points 3, 6 and 7, if I understand them correctly, is someone who has responsibilities, not really free. A person living in true freedom is according to this definition not really someone likeable because he or she wouldn't care about ones feelings or whether their actions would harm anyone or not. Those fictional people would also not let themself be restrained by low instincts like hunger, thirst, etc.
That makes it rather questionable if true freedom is really desirable or realistic for individuals or the society. Which makes the demand by neoliberals for total freedom from any restraints by government, laws, society, etc. completely silly.
So this means that we aren't in a completely free world, quite the opposite. And of course do we all have responsibilities, to our families, friends, relatives, society, etc.
Post edited June 02, 2016 by viperfdl
