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Cleidophoros: Not being able to play some will be the price to pay if you want to make a stand.
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Alexrd: But that's what I already do.
Good for you. It seems you understand what I said but pretended not to.
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StingingVelvet: Don't take this as an insult, but you need therapy.
It would have solved a lot of my problems earlier on in life, that's for sure!

Though the lack of it helps me empathise with today's gamers who feel as though they are getting fisted by the industry he/she grew up loving. It's no different to people feeling as though they are getting screwed over by the government and feeling helpless to do anything about it (which can often be as much as 49% of the population in a Democractic society.. or 99% even).

Though I fully agree with your bond quote!
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Cleidophoros: Good for you. It seems you understand what I said but pretended not to.
You didn't gave much of a solution to solve the problem, either.
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NachoBoyDX: Though the lack of it helps me empathise with today's gamers who feel as though they are getting fisted by the industry he/she grew up loving. It's no different to people feeling as though they are getting screwed over by the government and feeling helpless to do anything about it (which can often be as much as 49% of the population in a Democractic society.. or 99% even).
If people hated DRM and DLC they wouldn't support it, but they do because they don't care, they don't dwell on it like you do. They have other shit to worry about. Same thing with government, if people really wanted a revolution they would go after one, history proves this time and again. They don't though, they're complacent and overall doing quite well all things considered, so they put their energy elsewhere.

Like most internet ranters your actual problem is that the vast majority of society doesn't agree with your beliefs and priorities, which probably contributes to your antisocial tendencies.

Therapy yo.
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NachoBoyDX: Though the lack of it helps me empathise with today's gamers who feel as though they are getting fisted by the industry he/she grew up loving. It's no different to people feeling as though they are getting screwed over by the government and feeling helpless to do anything about it (which can often be as much as 49% of the population in a Democractic society.. or 99% even).
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StingingVelvet: If people hated DRM and DLC they wouldn't support it, but they do because they don't care, they don't dwell on it like you do. They have other shit to worry about. Same thing with government, if people really wanted a revolution they would go after one, history proves this time and again. They don't though, they're complacent and overall doing quite well all things considered, so they put their energy elsewhere.

Like most internet ranters your actual problem is that the vast majority of society doesn't agree with your beliefs and priorities, which probably contributes to your antisocial tendencies.

Therapy yo.
Not wasting a night arguing over something so trivial. Though yeah.. therapy. Everyone should be sent to therapy that has a differing outlook on life so that everyone can be the same, complacent. Genius.
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Cleidophoros: Good for you. It seems you understand what I said but pretended not to.
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Alexrd: You didn't gave much of a solution to solve the problem, either.
I didn't intend to.
However you could all not buy games with drm and get your message to the companies loud and clear so once it's not profitable to make games with drm only then games without drm can follow.
Or you would just be not playing games with drm.
It is normal to loose interest in games with age so that may be a cause too...
Though, I share your thoughts about modern gaming and modern consoles.
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Alexrd: What insult? If DRM is applied to prevent piracy, then you, who legally bought a game with DRM, are being treated as one (even though you may not be one).
By that same logic, I guess that when you go to your parent's house, find that the door has a lock and you have a copy of the key, you still get offended because your mother treated you as a thief?!
Again the same discussion as everywhere. Some like it as it is some don't. Everybody thinks he's more right than the other. Everybody wants to say how he feels about it. Nobody understands why anybody can have a different opinion. In the end they critique that the critics criticiszed the criticizing critics.. oh whatever.

Big waste of time all that. A simple "I Like it" button on the OP would have been enough.
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Trilarion: Again the same discussion as everywhere. Some like it as it is some don't. Everybody thinks he's more right than the other. Everybody wants to say how he feels about it. Nobody understands why anybody can have a different opinion. In the end they critique that the critics criticiszed the criticizing critics.. oh whatever.
yeah, but the OP clearly wanted to make a point. why else would he have shared his personal motivations when they are irrelevant to everyone else?

and if you make a point in a discussion forum, then discussion and counter-points inevitably follow. they have to.
Here's how I see this DRM and digital delivery shit craziness: now playing games is a double fun, because you also need to get the right tools (cracks, DVD emulator, disk images from P2P etc.) that will assure you your games will be re-playable for the upcoming centuries of your robotic-everlasting life :-P
Post edited February 24, 2012 by KingofGnG
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KingofGnG: Here's how I see this DRM and digital delivery shit craziness: now playing games is a double fun, because you also need to get the right tools (cracks, DVD emulator, disk images from P2P etc.) that will assure you your games will be re-playable for the upcoming centuries of your robotic-everlasting life :-P
yeah, i'm gonna stop gaming altogether because i don't know if those Steam games i bought during the Holiday Sale at €2.50 per piece will still be playable in 35 years.

totally.
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Alexrd: What insult? If DRM is applied to prevent piracy, then you, who legally bought a game with DRM, are being treated as one (even though you may not be one).
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Antaniserse: By that same logic, I guess that when you go to your parent's house, find that the door has a lock and you have a copy of the key, you still get offended because your mother treated you as a thief?!
I think this is a brilliant analogy, and I like it so much that I'll probably steal it and use it in discussions about DRM in the future, so let me thank you now!
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StingingVelvet: Don't take this as an insult, but you need therapy.
Why? Just because he doesn't do what the majority of people think he should do? You can't "brainwash" everyone just because... because... uhm... well... because he needs other things to be happy than you oO

Look at me... I'm a loner. I don't like to talk to strangers. I get tired and my thoughts start to drift away in prolonged conversations. I have a huge collection of DVDs, books and games. I simply prefer staying at home. BUT: I'm happy with my life. And I have a job that doesn't require me to talk to anyone. Not to any boss (I'm a freelancer), nor to clients. Do I need therapy now? Why? To make more friends and to become "the real happy", I didn't even know of? I don't want to know your happy... I have my own one!

Live and let live...

ps. This isn't meant to be offensive. I just don't like the "therapy culture" we have since a few years. People are different and not everyone who needs some vacations is suffering from burnout ;)
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Asbeau: I think this is a brilliant analogy, and I like it so much that I'll probably steal it and use it in discussions about DRM in the future, so let me thank you now!
It's a crap analogy. A much better one would be if I rented a house and had to ask the landlord for the key every time I want to enter.

After all, why would I be offended that my mother, to whom I pay no rent and who owes me nothing, locks her door to protect herself? And if she gives me the key (much like the key to disc-based copy protection is on the disc, so we have it with us at all times), I can let myself in and out as I please.

If I lived there and had to ask her for the key everytime though (much like asking a server for a key each time), it gets irritating.
Post edited February 24, 2012 by jamyskis