Gangland is kinda fun, for a while, but it gets old real fast. Probably not your best bet right after your complaints about FTL

Ok, thanks!

I think I'll go with great battles and wait for GOG to release Gangsters 2 -.-

So customers aren't allowed to have criticisms for products they buy? FYI, I don't think the content that was originally in the game was good enough. I don't think the experience I got with FTL was worth the money I paid for it. It felt like a very rushed and unfinished game to me.

And why are you so aggro about this anyway? You're attacking everyone who dares to not be satisfied with the game, like that's a crime... Are you a game dev yourself? If so, please do tell if you ever make a game so I can not buy it. Your attitude is very off putting.

Oh, it didn't bother me, I didn't need free updates (online or otherwise), I played that game for 100s of hours and never made much progress at all. Of course, things were different then, my computer was steam powered and I had to keep putting coal on the fires to keep it going.

Telengard in 1978 was running on horse power then.

Dude, everyone has the right to criticize everything. People should have this freedom, no? I don't understand this mentality people like you have that is against people saying what is on their mind. Imagine how boring and useless this forum would be if nobody criticized anything.

Not Gangland. One of the worst games I've played.

FTL is not a roguelike, it was not marketed as a roguelike. For lack of a proper genre or maybe as a marketing idea it was called roguelike-like, because it has some elements from that genre. But only about as many as any other strategy game. Many of those feature random map generation and theoretically you should not abuse the save function to gain advantages. (you can still do that by backing upo the save files)
It has very little in common with Desktop Dungeons or other real rogue games. I would probably call it Strategy-RPG, bit like Kings Bounty.Exploring a random map,and in between the tactical fights you can upgrade your hero/forces.

I'm not a dev or anything. I just seriously dislike the attitude of self-entitlement many gamers have.

And if you didn't like FTL, fine. I don't care either way. Blaming the dev for a lack of content updates is not the same thing as criticism of the actual game however.

Would you expect content to be added later for a book, a movie, or any other media? No? Then why should it happen for a video game?


I don't have anything against constructive criticism, or people expressing their opinions on something.

However, people not liking something because of something mostly unrelated is not a good thing.
Saying FTL suffered from a lack of content is perfectly ok (and kind of true), saying FTL sucks because the dev didn't add free content later is not.
The first is about the game's quality, the second is about disliking a game because of someone's (poor) business decisions.

The developers don't owe you anything beyond making the game work properly. Any content updates are optional on their part. Very welcome, but optional.

FTL has plenty of great mods for it, check out the youtube Channel Vanguard of Valor if you want to see them in action. There are some great mods that improve the backgrounds and appearance of the game, as well as various ship mods and content mods.

Thanks, I may do that, because I already got bored of the vanilla content.

Wanting something does not equal self entitlement. And games are not books, or movies, etc. Lots of games are released half finished and/or with lots of bugs, and are fixed later with patches and updates. How often does that happen with other forms of media?

The game includes a chatroom of sorts, open to all playing the game at that moment. Significant events in your game (like your death) are automatically sent, and you can easily upload info about cool items or strange enemies you have encountered. So it has an immediate communal aspect. Plus, your dead characters are uploaded to the te4 site, and players can see what happened and all the interesting stuff you had when you died. (You can disable all of this if you wish, and you needn't be online to play.)

Events in game can permanently unlock new skills, races, and classes.

There are occasional optional escort missions. Some panicked idiot is typically running for some portal, the location of which is initially unclear. Your job is to get them to stop long enough to allow you to clear the way of enemies. They aren't great at self-preservation, which makes the missions entertaining. Still, the rewards for success are typically very useful.

The developer is totally enthusiastic and devoted. Someone will propose a time-traveling character, and within a week or two it'll be available for experiment. A bit of user feedback and some edits, and the character becomes viable. The dev frequently releases updates (giving all aspects of the game attention) with huge changelogs. The game is very much alive in that respect.

I paid absolutely nothing for Dwarf Fortress and I keep getting free updates. I don't see how my contribution to a project invalidates comparison to a lot of other projects. By the way, above mentioned Dwarf Fortress throws in massive mechanical tweaks and changes, all FTL needs to do is to add a few lines of text with responces.

Besides, where did I say I want content updates for FTL to be free?

And now that I think about it, the other way to make it more replayable would be an actual character creation screen. You know, get a certain amount of currency, and buy upgrades / room / crew you want.