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JudasIscariot: It's included in case someone doesn't have a PDF reader. It's fairly optional so you don't have to install/use it if you don't want to :D


Because we're installing an entire OS? :D
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Theta_Sigma: gogOS? Sounds awesome, count me in for a copy! :D
A drm free OS...Like Linux? Oh wait they don't support it.....

too soon? :P
Any reasons why Foxit Reader is included?

You guys are aware that Adobe Reader / Acrobat is the only PDF application that uses proper sandboxing, right?
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Theta_Sigma: gogOS? Sounds awesome, count me in for a copy! :D
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serpantino: A drm free OS...Like Linux? Oh wait they don't support it.....

too soon? :P
I really shouldn't be laughing, since I am a Linux user, but HA HA HA...
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Elenarie: Any reasons why Foxit Reader is included?

You guys are aware that Adobe Reader / Acrobat is the only PDF application that uses proper sandboxing, right?
It's also the only reader that requires proper sandboxing. I rarely hear about exploits in other PDF readers. It's usually Acrobat because they decided that a display format needs to have scripts involved as well.

EDIT: Unless I'm missing something Foxit doesn't even have the capacity to execute scripts making sandboxing pointless.
Post edited October 29, 2012 by hedwards
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Elenarie: Any reasons why Foxit Reader is included?

You guys are aware that Adobe Reader / Acrobat is the only PDF application that uses proper sandboxing, right?
That question is beyond my area of expertise because I am not one of the guys that work on the installer and all, sorry :D
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hedwards: It's also the only reader that requires proper sandboxing. I rarely hear about exploits in other PDF readers. It's usually Acrobat because they decided that a display format needs to have scripts involved as well.

EDIT: Unless I'm missing something Foxit doesn't even have the capacity to execute scripts making sandboxing pointless.
As far as I know from what I've read online (I could be wrong), Foxit does support external scripting. Also, you have to consider the fact that Adobe's software is the most popular PDF reader / creator in the world, which results in it being targeted more (which in all honesty, I actually like, because security through obscurity is no security at all).
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hedwards: It's also the only reader that requires proper sandboxing. I rarely hear about exploits in other PDF readers. It's usually Acrobat because they decided that a display format needs to have scripts involved as well.

EDIT: Unless I'm missing something Foxit doesn't even have the capacity to execute scripts making sandboxing pointless.
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Elenarie: As far as I know from what I've read online (I could be wrong), Foxit does support external scripting. Also, you have to consider the fact that Adobe's software is the most popular PDF reader / creator in the world, which results in it being targeted more (which in all honesty, I actually like, because security through obscurity is no security at all).
It's not security by obscurity, what I see on the Foxit website really shouldn't involve scripting. At least not in the reader version.

The reason why Adobe software is the most exploited software in the world, is because they coded it incompetently from the get go. MS Word suffers a similar problem where they decided that it would be really cool to integrate scripting into a document format. Doesn't work and it just leads to being exploited.

And don't get me started on Flash, granted Macromedia started that mess, but Adobe owns that one now.

This is a bit like saying, well, the fox has already eaten 5 of my chickens so we'd better let him continue guarding the hen house because he's probably full.
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hedwards: ...
Reading their product page now, it states that it supports external commands and JavaScript.
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JudasIscariot: ...
A suggestion, since Vista, 7, and 8 include a XPS and OXPS reader and printer, you guys could also provide O/XPS versions of the PDF files (thus users won't have to install PDF readers if they don't want to).
Post edited October 29, 2012 by Elenarie
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hedwards: ...
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Elenarie: Reading their product page now, it states that it supports external commands and JavaScript.
The only reference I see to JavaScript at all is on the security page where it says you can turn it off. And really, turning it off is all you really need to do. I can't recall the last time I opened a PDF that used scripting at all.

Turning off the javascript solves the problem more thoroughly than sandboxing does, as they would have to find an exploit in order to turn support on, before they can execute code to exploit whatever other bugs they're looking to exploit.

The point is that Acrobat is much more in need of sandboxing than the competition is. Only requiring it because Adobe thought it was a bright idea to allow scripts into a display format.
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Theta_Sigma: gogOS? Sounds awesome, count me in for a copy! :D
Actually that is a good idea. You know that TET said they cannot support multiple flavours of Linux? Now, if GOG would release their own Linux distro AND support GOG games to run in that distro, would not that solve the "multiple distro support problem"?

:-)

EDIT: Ah, serpantino already mentioned it above.
Post edited October 29, 2012 by tarangwydion
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Theta_Sigma: gogOS? Sounds awesome, count me in for a copy! :D
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tarangwydion: Actually that is a good idea. You know that TET said they cannot support multiple flavours of Linux? Now, if GOG would release their own Linux distro AND support GOG games to run in that distro, would not that solve the "multiple distro support problem"?

:-)

EDIT: Ah, serpantino already mentioned it above.
Actually, I would willingly run a GOG-supported distro on my lappy if it meant I could run all my GOG titles (if not most of them) outside of Windows or Mac.
Yep. Me too.
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tarangwydion: Yep. Me too.
Also, if they were willing to build it off of Ubuntu or Debian, then they would also have access to huge repositories to make it more multifaceted.
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hedwards: ...
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Elenarie: Reading their product page now, it states that it supports external commands and JavaScript.
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JudasIscariot: ...
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Elenarie: A suggestion, since Vista, 7, and 8 include a XPS and OXPS reader and printer, you guys could also provide O/XPS versions of the PDF files (thus users won't have to install PDF readers if they don't want to).
Send an email via the Contact form about that and it should get passed on to the appropriate party(ies). I only say that because I don't want to step on the techs' toes :D
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JudasIscariot: Send an email via the Contact form about that and it should get passed on to the appropriate party(ies). I only say that because I don't want to step on the techs' toes :D
This isn't exactly tech stuff, more like content / product / whatever (no idea how you guys are organized). :)