If you are talking about bundles, it wasn't the norm, it was the change. The norm was bundle key, 1 for PWYW, 1 for BTA, and 1 for extra unlocks. Separate keys were added later on.

But you can give away the thing you bought, which is the bundle. So one bundle, one key shouldn't be a problem.

What happened? Do you mean the regional pricing thing? They didn't back out on any of that, they're still doing what the initial statement said they would. What they did do was repeat what they said in the initial announcement (but clearer) that they were going to make an effort to get games at a single price where they can. The only real significant difference in that statement was the commitment to better compensation for the people affected by the regional prices. It's still not 'fair' pricing, but it's better than you'd get it elsewhere where it's regionally priced.

Unless that's not what you were talking about of course :)

You're right, no point. There is no argument that consumers are better off accepting less than what they need to. It's a CHOICE. I'm merely pointing out the FACT that it's a CHOICE that goes against their long term interests.

You can justify the choice all you want, but the bottom line is this. Consumers do not HAVE TO ACCEPT one key for all. And if they CHOSE NOT TO, future bundles wouldn't be like this. And it is also FACT that separate keys provide more options for consumers.

If consumers as a whole demanded DRM stop tomorrow, then DRM would stop tomorrow. That's also a FACT. Again, you can deny, excuse, or ignore it all you want to, but that's the way the market works. So every time a consumer buys something with DRM, they are responsible for it's existence and spread. And yes, I'm guilty too.

Whether it's DRM or just more options (there is NO SCENARIO where one key for all provides more options for consumers than separate keys for all. NONE. There is no choice that could be made with one key that can't be made with many) consumers have in their power to determine what is and isn't available in the marketplace.

Sorry for pointing out reality. You don't like it, join the crowd. I don't like the reality that most consumers don't give one little tiny fucking shit about other consumers and always only act in their very own limited self interest rather than what's best for everyone overall.

So yeah, please don't bother responding.

Day 3: Humble Daily Bundle: The Banner Saga

PWYW for:
The Banner Saga Artwork
The Banner Saga: Factions - Starter Pack

BTA for:
The Banner Saga: Factions - Variations Pack

$15+ for:
The Banner Saga

I say thee, nay.

And my apologies to JMich for thread hijacking, and to all readers for me having the audacity to point out the fact that things could be better than what they are if we would just think about the long term instead of the right now. That's true in how consumers make choices, how politicians make choices, and CEO's make choices. It seems to be the human condition, for right and wrong.

But I also know it gets damned old. I know this because I'm goddamned good and tired of reading the tired fucking excuses for it myself. So despite my overall love for this forum, this will be my last post since I know I've become a "buzz kill" for pointing out things that most would rather not have pointed out.

So good luck to you all, enjoy the world that you're in the process of creating with your decisions, and I'll STFU now.

No worries, I'm the last one who will complain about a thread going off topic. I did have "Thread Derailer" as my title for some months, and I do enjoy the natural ebb and flow of conversation.

Banner Saga finally gets bundled and it's bundled with DLC for a free-to-play game tacked on. Since I have no interest in the free-to-play Banner Saga: Factions, I think it's safe to say I'll pass.

I think we all need to speak up when we see things that are "wrong" ;-) So I hope you didn't mean "last last" ;-p

Sooo, it's a discount?

Normal price for Banner Saga is $29.99, so it is a 50% discount if you pay the minimum for the game. + You get those faction thingies.
have you tried Tower of Guns yet? you may like one of the items you can find there.

That's not a re-bundle, is it?

I kind of hoped they would go on with the re-bundles, as I missed some of the very early ones. Probably not realistic to expect them though ... rights would probably have to be re-negotiated, which could get messy with so many parties involved.

But calling this offer a "bundle" is questionable, imho.

True. It just that why is this being called a bundle? It's just a regular sale. Will it be called a bundle when you can get all of that on Steam at the same price one day? I know I'm being nit-picky, just something I'm pondering.

Not yet, and probably not in the foreseeable future.