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Weclock: you bet your ass. Lucasarts and steam can both kiss my ass. I got one cheek dedicated for each of 'em.

I lol'd
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Arkose: All of these re-released titles are ones that were very successful, paying for their budgets several times over, and have since been pirated heavily. Anyone who wants a pirated copy will already have one, but the fans will still jump on a re-release anyway.
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Wishbone: Indeed. Cracked LucasArts games are not hard to find. Adding DRM to them at this point is like a woman putting in her diaphragm after she's already gotten pregnant.

It's much more a peace of mind thing for the higher-ups than it is anything to do with protecting them from being pirated, I would imagine.
The old protections are removed as well, it is only Steam/D2D protection in place.
Post edited September 14, 2009 by StingingVelvet
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Wishbone: Indeed. Cracked LucasArts games are not hard to find. Adding DRM to them at this point is like a woman putting in her diaphragm after she's already gotten pregnant.
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StingingVelvet: It's much more a peace of mind thing for the higher-ups than it is anything to do with protecting them from being pirated, I would imagine.

Exactly what kind of peace of mind would it give them? Unless of course they are all idiots (and I mean that sincerely; if they think DRM will make ANY difference to the sales of those games, other than possibly detract from them, then they ARE idiots).
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StingingVelvet: The old protections are removed as well, it is only Steam/D2D protection in place.

So the DRM got worse.
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StingingVelvet: It's much more a peace of mind thing for the higher-ups than it is anything to do with protecting them from being pirated, I would imagine.
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Wishbone: Exactly what kind of peace of mind would it give them? Unless of course they are all idiots (and I mean that sincerely; if they think DRM will make ANY difference to the sales of those games, other than possibly detract from them, then they ARE idiots).
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StingingVelvet: The old protections are removed as well, it is only Steam/D2D protection in place.

So the DRM got worse.

People who put the money up for games don't like the idea of releasing them into the wild with no protections, even if those protections are found to be extremely imperfect.
You can choose to be outraged by that simple fact, or you can work to figure out the best DRM options and support them. Your choice, I guess.
I haven't gotten mouselook to work for Dark Forces on Dosbox, so if they fix that up for the steam version, I'll be happy. Otherwise, I have Jedi Knight, so I don't care much. Maybe it'll bring attention to the series though and get Lucas Arts to make a new one. Well, one can only hope.
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StingingVelvet: People who put the money up for games don't like the idea of releasing them into the wild with no protections, even if those protections are found to be extremely imperfect.

Try "completely useless". Since these games are old and were cracked ages ago, and have been distributed ever since, it gives NO protection.
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StingingVelvet: You can choose to be outraged by that simple fact, or you can work to figure out the best DRM options and support them. Your choice, I guess.

Oh, I can do both. And I do, I support GOG.
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StingingVelvet: People who put the money up for games don't like the idea of releasing them into the wild with no protections, even if those protections are found to be extremely imperfect.
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Wishbone: Try "completely useless". Since these games are old and were cracked ages ago, and have been distributed ever since, it gives NO protection.

Yes. I know. Did I say it made sense? No. I said it is the case.
As for supporting GOG, obviously so do I, but GOG does not sell new games.
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Wishbone: Try "completely useless". Since these games are old and were cracked ages ago, and have been distributed ever since, it gives NO protection.
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StingingVelvet: Yes. I know. Did I say it made sense? No. I said it is the case.
As for supporting GOG, obviously so do I, but GOG does not sell new games.

Since when is Jedi Knight a new game? Or the rest of the LucasArts back catalog, for that matter.
Well the code is changed slightly to make it run properly, makes it SLIGHTLY new in a very vague repainted used car way
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Wishbone: Since when is Jedi Knight a new game? Or the rest of the LucasArts back catalog, for that matter.

There can only be a handful of Lucasarts games too new to be GOGed.
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Wishbone: Since when is Jedi Knight a new game? Or the rest of the LucasArts back catalog, for that matter.
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Navagon: There can only be a handful of Lucasarts games too new to be GOGed.

Those are also the ones that must be forgotten for all eternity.
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michaelleung: Those are also the ones that must be forgotten for all eternity.

The only one I can think of between 2006 and now is the repainted Monkey Island. So consider them forgotten.
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michaelleung: Those are also the ones that must be forgotten for all eternity.
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Navagon: The only one I can think of between 2006 and now is the repainted Monkey Island. So consider them forgotten.

TOMI TECHNICALLY doesn't count since it's a Telltale game, and Monkey Island redone is basically just... the old Monkey Island, so how much could it have changed other than graphics-wise?
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Navagon: The only one I can think of between 2006 and now is the repainted Monkey Island. So consider them forgotten.
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michaelleung: TOMI TECHNICALLY doesn't count since it's a Telltale game, and Monkey Island redone is basically just... the old Monkey Island, so how much could it have changed other than graphics-wise?

I'm not counting Tales of Monkey Island. As for the SE, they completely redone the musical score and voice acting using the original cast. They didn't change anything in terms of gameplay, as you can switch between the two versions on the fly.
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Wishbone: Since when is Jedi Knight a new game? Or the rest of the LucasArts back catalog, for that matter.

I think you are being intentionally difficult. I meant in a general sense, I support GOG but they do not sell new games, so I also have to buy games elsewhere.
If you want, we can make it "but they do not sell ALL games," and then it pertains to Jedi Knight.