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So let me see if I understand these morons.
Valve told them there would still be content released for the original game, but that wasn't good enough...until Valve told them in person that there would be content for the original game still coming out. Apparently the in person part made it believable?
And they never actually boycotted ANYTHING! There wasn't a game out to boycott yet!
Enough of these pathetic, whining little jagoffs.
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Crassmaster: So let me see if I understand these morons.
Valve told them there would still be content released for the original game, but that wasn't good enough...until Valve told them in person that there would be content for the original game still coming out. Apparently the in person part made it believable?
And they never actually boycotted ANYTHING! There wasn't a game out to boycott yet!
Enough of these pathetic, whining little jagoffs.

I was part of it, and the reason I joined it was because I felt a sequel was too soon and the game would be better suited as an expansion.
which it is.
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Weclock: I was part of it, and the reason I joined it was because I felt a sequel was too soon and the game would be better suited as an expansion.
which it is.

So you were boycotting it, now you're not only buying it, you're pre-ordering it?
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Navagon: So you were boycotting it, now you're not only buying it, you're pre-ordering it?
because of the price. - but $33 isn't bad at all, not for an expansion.
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Navagon: So you were boycotting it, now you're not only buying it, you're pre-ordering it?
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Weclock: because of the price. - but $33 isn't bad at all, not for an expansion.

But it's not an expansion. An expansion wouldn't divide the community. An expansion would mean I get more value out of the overpriced original as it would bring its improvements to the existing campaigns.
The fact that Gabe was banging on about how games should be cheaper makes the way the L4D series has been handled hypocritical, to say the least.
Well, I won't be getting L4D2 until it's gone down in price or it is actually proven that it is a huge improvement (highly unlikely in this case unfortunately).
I must say though that L4D did give me many hours of enjoyable gameplay with friends and that is why I got it in the first place. Gameplay is simple, graphics aren't the best but it was fun while it lasted and honestly, not many games can do that to me these days.
That's also why I am so doubtful about the sequel because there isn't that much IMO that you can improve without making the game more complicated which would defeat it's purpose in the first place which is simplicity and fun for the moment.
Yeesh, is that what passes for a boycott these days? If something about a product or company bothers people, don't buy it. If enough people feel and act the same way then you have an effective boycott. If not a lot of people act the same way then all you have is a small group of people of little consequence not buying the product. Being semi-organized and highly vocal doesn't mean you suddenly have an effective boycott, it just means you have a semi-organized and highly vocal small group of people of little consequence not buying the product. But then I guess that's par for the course these days with the number of kids who seem to think that if they shout loudly enough they'll become relevant. Now get off my lawn.
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DarrkPhoenix: a small group of people of little consequence

"Persons of Little Consequence" would make a pretty good name for a soprano-fronted electro band.
Or nickname for politicians worldwide...
Even though I don't give a toss about left 4 dead, I always thought the boycott was bollocks. It'd be most likely that it would attract heaps of people who were pissed off and vocal about it but then they'd all forget it when they saw the shiny box, a mate of theirs had already bought it and they found it a bit cheaper than they expected and they'd just buy it anyway and forget all about #1.
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DarrkPhoenix: a small group of people of little consequence
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Mentalepsy: "Persons of Little Consequence" would make a pretty good name for a soprano-fronted electro band.
especially if they were little people.
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DarrkPhoenix: Yeesh, is that what passes for a boycott these days?
I don't know, I just wanted it for cheaper, and they are selling it for cheaper, so in my opinion, I won. :DD
Post edited October 16, 2009 by Weclock
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Crassmaster: So let me see if I understand these morons.
Valve told them there would still be content released for the original game, but that wasn't good enough...until Valve told them in person that there would be content for the original game still coming out. Apparently the in person part made it believable?
And they never actually boycotted ANYTHING! There wasn't a game out to boycott yet!
Enough of these pathetic, whining little jagoffs.

Valve didn't just tell them in person that there would be more content, they were showed it, met the people working on it and actually allowed to demo some of it. Actually seeing the content was what made it believable.
Their whole basis for the boycott was the impression that Valve was leaving L4D behind in favor of the (too soon) sequel, despite their earlier promises to continue supporting L4D. Nothing Valve could say would really change that impression, but actually seeing it in their studios completely took the wind out of the boycott's sails.
In the end, the "boycott" has probably done nothing more than provide free advertising for Valve and both L4D games... just like most boycotts do.
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cogadh: Their whole basis for the boycott was the impression that Valve was leaving L4D behind in favor of the (too soon) sequel, despite their earlier promises to continue supporting L4D. Nothing Valve could say would really change that impression, but actually seeing it in their studios completely took the wind out of the boycott's sails.
In the end, the "boycott" has probably done nothing more than provide free advertising for Valve and both L4D games... just like most boycotts do.

The boycott was protesting Valve promosing things for L4D to encourage sales, that they decided to deliver as a full priced sequel.
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Navagon: But it's not an expansion. An expansion wouldn't divide the community. An expansion would mean I get more value out of the overpriced original as it would bring its improvements to the existing campaigns.
The fact that Gabe was banging on about how games should be cheaper makes the way the L4D series has been handled hypocritical, to say the least.

Navagon, we seem to agree a lot more than we disagree on. I am legitimately shocked.
The community is COMPLETELY divided, and people who saved up enough money to buy the first L4D (Which BTW is an incredible achievement), because THAT was supposed to be "the platform" are completely left out in the cold now.
Post edited October 16, 2009 by anjohl