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rodrolliv: What does this mean? I found it via a videogames forum, but I don't know if it's just Disney confirming the ownership of the Maniac Mansion brand or someting else.

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn85940105&docId=APP20130525075031#docIndex=0&page=1%23nnn
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011284mm: Probably just Disney making sure no one else can claim any right to anything they own. You do know they are a company that makes all of its money from work done by others.
Unlike copyright, trademark has a practicing provision. If Disney doesn't actually sell products under the Maniac Mansion trademark then any competitor can just snap it up. The filing is practically meaningless if they aren't doing something with the property (the threat of being litigated to death by the Disney legal team is far scarier than the actual legal weight of a lapsed trademark). While it might be precautionary, they must at very least be considering practicing the IP.
Post edited May 27, 2013 by Darvin
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shmerl: Recently Disney bought Lucasarts. Do you think it decreases the chances of any Lucasarts games appearing on GOG, or it increases them?
it depends on if Disney is interested in partnering with GOG.com, i have no idea if they are or not.
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shmerl: Recently Disney bought Lucasarts. Do you think it decreases the chances of any Lucasarts games appearing on GOG, or it increases them?
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megarock58: it depends on if Disney is interested in partnering with GOG.com, i have no idea if they are or not.
I hope they are. My feeling is if GOG can get Wizardry, they can get LucasArts as well.

They simply to show up at Disney headquarters and sing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Op1TaXmCw
Post edited May 27, 2013 by thme
It would be great to see the old Lucasarts adventure titles pop up here.

It's not without precedent, they still sell some of their old adventure titles on Steam.

The Dig: http://store.steampowered.com/app/6040/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
Loom: http://store.steampowered.com/app/32340/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
Last Crusade: http://store.steampowered.com/app/32310/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
Fate of Atlantis: http://store.steampowered.com/app/6010/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1

Then there's the Monkey Island remakes which allow you to switch between new and old, and even older star wars titles like Dark Forces.
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Cormoran: It would be great to see the old Lucasarts adventure titles pop up here.

It's not without precedent, they still sell some of their old adventure titles on Steam.

The Dig: http://store.steampowered.com/app/6040/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
Loom: http://store.steampowered.com/app/32340/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
Last Crusade: http://store.steampowered.com/app/32310/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
Fate of Atlantis: http://store.steampowered.com/app/6010/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1

Then there's the Monkey Island remakes which allow you to switch between new and old, and even older star wars titles like Dark Forces.
Well if Steam sells these games, I don't see why we can't sell them here. Here's hoping the situation will eventually change.
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oldschool: Well if Steam sells these games, I don't see why we can't sell them here. Here's hoping the situation will eventually change.
They were so anal about it they changed the files around so the Steam versions didn't work in ScummVM. Whoever was running LucasArts was obviously not up for DRM free releases.

I would guess now that Disney owns the whole catalog they find it beneath their interest.
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Jadefalcon: You realise ilves, that unless a publisher specifically allows it, there's no such thing as abandonware, however frustrating it can be?
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solzariv: Since when does the general public need a company's permission to actualize a concept and agree upon its terminologies? This is like saying "ain't" and other slang terms aren't real words just because some high-brow dictionaries by Oxford scholars don't make any mention of them. Rubbish logic.
I believe the OP meant to say that legally Abandonware doesn't exist, which is right... Regardless of whether people speak of such concept as though it existed, as long as it doesn't appear in any law anywhere it just won't exist. And currently no laws say that after a ceirtain number of years/if a publisher stops selling a software product you can download it for free. It isn't prosecuted, but if the companies decided to do so it would go to court as good old piracy.
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Cormoran: It would be great to see the old Lucasarts adventure titles pop up here.

It's not without precedent, they still sell some of their old adventure titles on Steam.
A pity, I'd buy them here, not on Steam. I wonder if DRM is the reason why they are on Steam but not here.

UPDATE: Just saw the post from StingingVelvet about Steam versions which don't work with Scummvm - that stinks. I guess Lucasarts indeed were DRM addicts. But Disney is known to be DRM addict as well, so this might be not for the better.
Post edited May 28, 2013 by shmerl
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oldschool: Well if Steam sells these games, I don't see why we can't sell them here. Here's hoping the situation will eventually change.
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StingingVelvet: They were so anal about it they changed the files around so the Steam versions didn't work in ScummVM. Whoever was running LucasArts was obviously not up for DRM free releases.

I would guess now that Disney owns the whole catalog they find it beneath their interest.
I didn't know that, Wow that is completely screwed up. FU Mickey.
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solzariv: Since when does the general public need a company's permission to actualize a concept and agree upon its terminologies? This is like saying "ain't" and other slang terms aren't real words just because some high-brow dictionaries by Oxford scholars don't make any mention of them. Rubbish logic.
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Tizzysawr: I believe the OP meant to say that legally Abandonware doesn't exist, which is right... Regardless of whether people speak of such concept as though it existed, as long as it doesn't appear in any law anywhere it just won't exist. And currently no laws say that after a ceirtain number of years/if a publisher stops selling a software product you can download it for free. It isn't prosecuted, but if the companies decided to do so it would go to court as good old piracy.
That's exactly what I meant, the way the abandonware phrase is commonly used doesn't really exist. If a companies okay with it being put out for free, like GOG did with Lure of the Temptress, Beneath a Steel Sky and so on, the game really becomes Freeware. There was even a site around at one time that was famous (or should that be infamous) for so called abandonware and they admitted that it was at the very best a grey term and had no legal standing. They did host some of these games but at the same time did say that if the company or rights holders came along and said it wasn't on, they would remove them.

The same has happened with TV shows getting rereleases that use popular music. TV shows like Heartbeat, Tour of Duty, Cold Case either never get released on DVD or are altered due to the nightmare that is music publishing rights.
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Jadefalcon: That's exactly what I meant, the way the abandonware phrase is commonly used doesn't really exist.
It doesn't exist as a legal concept but it is certainly a term with meaning and things that apply to it. Whether you like it or not many games can never be re-released for various reasons and abandonware is the only way to make them available for history.
The trouble is, that many people use this term as a justification for piracy and say, oh its abandonware, when so such legal term exists. Let's face it, prior to GOG, how many of these games would you think would ever have been rereleased? The fact remains though that these games are often the property of a person, or a company. A prime example is I have no Mouth and I must scream. As far as I'm aware, short of paying inflated prices on somewhere like Ebay there is no legal, and thats the kicker here, way of getting it because Harlan Ellison wont authorise a rerelease for reasons known only to himself.

There are plenty of games I'd like to see rereleased, two main ones being EA's Sherlock Holmes adventures as I still find them superior in terms of storyline to the Frogwares games.