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Happy happy joy joy ... Ryzen back up and running on the new ASUS X370.

I had the Windows activation problem once again and did a Windows Reset once again yesterday. Obviously not necessary though, as the system was not activated afterwards anyway (like it did the last time). 24 hours later and while I was waiting on hold in the line for support, Windows magically activated itself. Well that was an easy to solve problem for the support when there is nothing to do. ;-)

The new ASUS Prime X370 Pro board seems pretty equal to the Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3. Obviously it has the X370 chipset instead of the B350, but I really do not see the great benefit for me here because I do not intend to use Crossfire/SLI for multiple graphic cards and the additional ASMedia chipset for additional USB ports does not really impress me either. Nice thing is the Intel Ethernet instead of the RealTek one. Then the new board has more passive coolers on the power supply components than the Gigabyte had which might be a plus for overclocking in the future. The ASUS also has a much more complex BIOS with more options and details to be controlled. I like it.
The most important thing to choose these boards were the newer RealTek HD audio chipset ALC1200 instead of the more often used ALC892.

ASUS had published a new BIOS for the board on Friday which I applied. RAM is working stable at 2400 MHz with 1,35 V and slower timings. No real improvement over the Gigabyte here. Either the Corsair Vengeance LPX (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) is just shit with AMD or ... well let's wait for more BIOS updates.
AMD already announced new AGESA microcode updates with better RAM support that will be given to the boards manufacturers for their BIOS implementation up to May.
Post edited April 02, 2017 by Quasebarth
Ryzen definitely showing some great results for streaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jludqTnPpnU

P.S. "Ashes of the benchmark" hehehe.
Temperature reporting has been fixed.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/amd_ryzen_master_software_v1_1_update_fixes_cpu_temperature_reporting.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_5_1500x_and_1600x_review,1.html
I like Guru3D most of the time, but ffs! 29 pages?
They could've lowered that count a lot to make it a much better article.


It looks like nvidia drivers/hardware is still making a mess of things somewhere along the line.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/64r0hj/thanks_nvidia_for_letting_ryzen_5_look_bad/
My Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 came in the mail :)

Now I'm eyeing the Ryzen 5 1600. Going to build a second computer with Ryzen very soon!
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CARRiON-XCII: My Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 came in the mail :)

Now I'm eyeing the Ryzen 5 1600. Going to build a second computer with Ryzen very soon!
Good luck, I had the same. Mine broke 2 weeks after installation and now I am running an ASUS Prime X370Pro which I got from the exchange. It is a lot more comfortable and detailed concerning BIOS options. Although it also was 30 € more expensive with the high end chipset that I don't really need.

I got the new AGESA microcode update to V1.0.0.4a yesterday with the latest BIOS update to V0604. Up to now I feel no real changes in system behaviour. It was stable before and still is, can't see performance increase.
Although the Corsair DDR4 3200 RAM is running at max 2933 MHz now with normal to aggressive timings, but it has sometimes still hickups on first boot (5 times boot loop), so I switched back to 2666 MHz, not to damage the board again. The Gigabyte Gaming 3 ended its life when I ran it at 2400 MHz with aggressive timings and ended up in an endless boot loop.
Post edited April 12, 2017 by Quasebarth
After reading about this Ryzen I think I will let it rest for at least one generation as to let them get most of the problems polished away. Intel's current processors seem extremely polished.
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Themken: After reading about this Ryzen I think I will let it rest for at least one generation as to let them get most of the problems polished away. Intel's current processors seem extremely polished.
If you do not need an upgrade now, it is always best to wait a while until the dust settles. By the end of the year most of the issues may be solved. Ryzen 2 may have other problems on release in 1 or 2 years as well. So stick to an established platform, for example a first gen Ryzen or an recent Intel in a year, if you fear early adopter problems. Every launch of a new platform brings new problems, even with Intel. Intel is just in the comfortable position that their latest iterations of CPUs where evolutions of an now maybe 10 year old basis which makes problems less likely of cause. When they change the socket and chipset, they will also have to fight with new problems in the beginning.

All I can say after all, is that the AM4 platform is awesome! The CPU runs flawlessly and stable, but not at its full potential if you are unlucky with the RAM. On the other hand at least my R7 1700X has enough power even with slower RAM. I don't need to beat an I7 7700 on single core performance just for the sake of it.

It should be noted, that most of the Ryzen R5 series seems to be the best you get for your buck at the moment if you look at the tests.
Post edited April 12, 2017 by Quasebarth
Intel certainly isn't immune from launch issues either. X99 still doesn't work entirely as intended or entirely reliably and the original Sandy Bridge motherboards had a SATA issue in them and had to be recalled/ withdrawn as a result (approx 8 million boards, and $700 million in costs). If Bulldozer hadn't been such a dud 2011 could have been a very bad year for Intel. The Ryzen issues are at least fairly minor in comparison.

(There's also a recent problem with Z/B/H1## MBs being 'compatible' with Kaby Lake but only after a BIOS flash you cannot actually perform when a KL processor is installed. But that's at least partly buyer's fault rather than Intel's)
For anyone that was waiting for RX580/570 news, ta-da!
http://jisakutech.com/archives/2017/04/33003

Looks good, but I'm still happy with my RX480 :)
Rumoured release of 18/4/2017.
Post edited April 13, 2017 by fishbaits
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fishbaits: For anyone that was waiting for RX580/570 news, ta-da!
http://jisakutech.com/archives/2017/04/33003

Looks good, but I'm still happy with my RX480 :)
Rumoured release of 18/4/2017.
So given the spec tables, the only thing it has is some 10% increase in clock speed over RX480? If that's all, there is indeed little reason to even consider upgrading...
Yeah, word is they gonna be 10-15% faster comparing to 470/480 models and more energy efficient.
My guess it's only going to be for anyone that was on the fence about getting an RX480. But, the extra should push it above a 1060.

I guess also of interest as a second card, assuming that doesn't bring problems with RX480/RX580.
I would like to read some opinions regarding the new AMD Wraith Coolers. How silent are they on your setup?