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Klumpen0815: Clueless European here.
What's a black friday? Does it have anything to do with gifting slaves? Allusion to Robinson Crusoe?
I've heard about some strange customs surviving the centuries.
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tinyE: Oh sorry. Ignorant American here. :P Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving when Christmas shopping is supposed to start and all the sales begin. It traditionally involves thousands of people pilling up outside stores and trampling each other to death to get the best deals.

Think of a British Soccer Riot only without any score keeping.
Strange customs indeed. A dangerous ritual for the sake of the god Mammon, I guess.

Sounds like fun - hopefully it's dead.
Two tickets (forth and back) for the local transit system are more expensive than shipping plus you don't lose lots of time and nerves, so I can't understand why people go to stores for this stuff anyway, but outside of GoG I'm usually not gifting anyone anything, so whatever. :D
Post edited November 18, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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tinyE: Oh sorry. Ignorant American here. :P Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving when Christmas shopping is supposed to start and all the sales begin. It traditionally involves thousands of people pilling up outside stores and trampling each other to death to get the best deals.

Think of a British Soccer Riot only without any score keeping.
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Klumpen0815: Strange customs indeed. A dangerous ritual for the sake of the god Mammon, I guess.

Sounds like fun - hopefully it's dead.
Two tickets (forth and back) for the local transit system are more expensive than shipping plus you don't lose lots of time and nerves, so I can't understand why people go to stores for this stuff anyway, but outside of GoG I'm usually not gifting anyone anything, so whatever. :D
I do all my shopping on Amazon save for the Christmas Eve when I run into town to get my mother a bottle of her favorite gourmet rum. By that time the stores are mostly dead.
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IAmSinistar: It's mid-November and Christmas is well underway here in The States. It starts immediately after Halloween, if not sooner. And I freaking hate that.
To be honest, I basically ignore Christmas. I actually ignore most holidays. I don't mind getting gifts and giving gifts, but they shouldn't be constrained to a specific day with a specific dollar amount. To be honest, we are heavily overspending, and we really shouldn't.

To simplify things, tell your friends and family you don't expect anything, and you won't go out of your way to get anything for them either. (Sure if you find something and it's around Christmas, you can probably gift it, but if it's say in march, just give it to them whenever rather than holding onto it).


I'm going to list off the two best gifts I have ever probably gotten from my GF, while all other gifts pale in comparison. A bright blue wind breaker (to replace one I lost), and a bulk bag of dry tea leaves (peppermint).

Maybe the biggest thing I hate most in Christmas time, is the music... The same songs over and over and over again. Makes me want to hide in a cave until it's all over, and often I'll hear them for 3 months out of the year.
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tinyE: Oh sorry. Ignorant American here. :P Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving when Christmas shopping is supposed to start and all the sales begin. It traditionally involves thousands of people pilling up outside stores and trampling each other to death to get the best deals.

Think of a British Soccer Riot only without any score keeping.
Strangely, companies such as Amazon have also started introducing the Black Friday concept here in Germany.
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tinyE: Oh sorry. Ignorant American here. :P Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving when Christmas shopping is supposed to start and all the sales begin. It traditionally involves thousands of people pilling up outside stores and trampling each other to death to get the best deals.

Think of a British Soccer Riot only without any score keeping.
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InfraSuperman: Strangely, companies such as Amazon have also started introducing the Black Friday concept here in Germany.
XD I just noticed that because they are doing it here, and it makes no sense to me. Sure the sale may start on 'Black Friday' (stupid enough in Germany because it's an American concept) but even if it was international, it's not a fucking race or riot or both. :P They must be just using the term as a marketing ploy. Gee, imagine that! :P
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InfraSuperman: Besides, there's already a whole bunch of movies about murderous Santas (like Christmas Evil; Silent Night, Deadly Night; Santa's Slay; Rare Exports), so I think it's only fair if the Dutch get in on that with their own holiday traditions...
Don't forget that the first slasher film is also set on this holiday - <span class="bold">Black Christmas</span>. It predates <span class="bold">Halloween</span> by a number of years.


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tinyE: Exactly why is there a Black Friday anymore with the internet? With all the annoying shit we have to deal with because of it, isn't losing the demand for Black Friday something we can rejoice in and praise the internet for?
We have the internet equivalent - Cyber Monday. That's when I like to do my shopping. Let the unwashed masses trample each other for one of the three flat-screens available when Best Buy opens their doors that Friday.
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InfraSuperman: Besides, there's already a whole bunch of movies about murderous Santas (like Christmas Evil; Silent Night, Deadly Night; Santa's Slay; Rare Exports), so I think it's only fair if the Dutch get in on that with their own holiday traditions...
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IAmSinistar: Don't forget that the first slasher film is also set on this holiday - <span class="bold">Black Christmas</span>. It predates <span class="bold">Halloween</span> by a number of years.

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tinyE: Exactly why is there a Black Friday anymore with the internet? With all the annoying shit we have to deal with because of it, isn't losing the demand for Black Friday something we can rejoice in and praise the internet for?
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IAmSinistar: We have the internet equivalent - Cyber Monday. That's when I like to do my shopping. Let the unwashed masses trample each other for one of the three flat-screens available when Best Buy opens their doors that Friday.
Ahem!

One of Linnea Quigley's first. :D Spoiler Alert: she doesn't make it. :D
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tinyE: Ahem!

One of Linnea Quigley's first. :D Spoiler Alert: she doesn't make it. :D
Yes, InfraSuperman mentioned that one. They are channeling Creepy comics with that movie poster.

And Linnea Quigley never made it, in any meaningful sense of the word. ;)
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tinyE: Ahem!

One of Linnea Quigley's first. :D Spoiler Alert: she doesn't make it. :D
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IAmSinistar: Yes, InfraSuperman mentioned that one. They are channeling Creepy comics with that movie poster.

And Linnea Quigley never made it, in any meaningful sense of the word. ;)
Dude, I named one of my guitars after her! She is a legend!
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tinyE: Dude, I named one of my guitars after her! She is a legend!
Yes, I'm only half-serious. She does have Scream Queen/B-Movie cachet, which is certainly a kind of success. And she's done some work I enjoyed.
I have to stop Christmas from coming ... but how?
just stumbled upon this...
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Post edited November 19, 2015 by Klumpen0815
From the song "Father Christmas" by The Kinks:

Father Christmas, give us some money
We got no time for your silly toys
We'll beat you up if you don't hand it over
Give all the toys to the little rich boys
Post edited November 19, 2015 by tinyE
I rarely celebrate Christmas with any of my family. As a matter a fact every holiday has always felt like an excuse to:

1. empty my wallet
2. eat tons of fattening food
3. get drunk

So I opt out usually, bills empty my wallet already, and I prefer to drink alone.
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227: I can't tell if you want Christmas to be full of vicious, wine-fueled arguments with extended family over meaningless political and lifestyle issues or if you just have unusually peaceful Thanksgivings.
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HunchBluntley: Damn, I wish I'd used something like this in my example instead of the whole "gluttony-'n'-sports" stereotype!

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227: Does it count as a rebuttal if I throw a flashbang at you?
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HunchBluntley: I believe U.S. debate rules would allow it.
Ears dropping, eyes down cast. sad that 227 does not want to play a game of catch with her flashbang.
Have a Happy Chranksgivingmas everyone!