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This is nothing new. I think they still do this with XP. I really don't see a problem with it. If enough people pay they might even release a new service pack to make it work with modern standards.
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Magmarock: This is nothing new. I think they still do this with XP. I really don't see a problem with it. If enough people pay they might even release a new service pack to make it work with modern standards.
Doubtful, considering their UWP push.
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Magmarock: This is nothing new. I think they still do this with XP. I really don't see a problem with it. If enough people pay they might even release a new service pack to make it work with modern standards.
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Darvond: Doubtful, considering their UWP push.
They could integrate that into the service pack. Or better yet just release a Windows 7 Skin for 10.
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OldOldGamer: I'll never understand the hate for MS when the free alternative, like Linux, is the most self-incomatible OS ever.
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Crosmando: Windows is easy to use while Linux is not?
I develop kernel drivers for Linux.
Remeber the time when linux was on 30 floppy disks.
Had fun with gentoo to compile the "uber-optimized" distribution.
And also spent days with LFS to build my own distribution.
i even intalled Ubuntu to my old dad, to avoid scam websites and viruses.

But yes. Linux is a pain in the arse.
Excellent system to develop on and customise it of having fun configuring stuff and understand the inner workings of a PC.

But for the majority of the users, is just a waste of time.
For gamers even more so.

I can't even bother anymore with obscure distributions: I.e. I install Ubuntu/Mint just to have a Windows like experience.
Also, what is the definition of Linux?
Post edited September 10, 2018 by OldOldGamer
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TentacleMayor: Windows 7 doesn't force-feed you updates on its own schedule, for one thing. And not small updates either, it makes you download several GB for some extra ''functionality'' you may not ever use. Complete disregard for bandwidth, data caps and user control over their own damn system.
This is why i`m considering going back to my old Windows 7. It`s not even worth it for games.

If they can get away with forcing updates on you without your say so, it`s only a matter of time before they force other things... My desktop pc manages it, but my laptop almost dies everytime.

Might even go Linux.
p.s. i miss the good ole days when everything was a little more work, but optional. Freedom.
Post edited September 10, 2018 by Socratatus
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nightcraw1er.488: I would rather tattoo data on my genitalia using a rusty blunt nail than use vista.
Nope, actually I can't think of any scenario in this life or the next which would ever convince me to use it now I have finally smashed the machine containing it. I even smashed the discs so they could never be used again, and then I burnt the remains and scattered the ash to the four winds, I was feeling quite merciful to the worst OS ever inflicted on the world... of a day goes by where I don't dream of smashing it all over again.
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idbeholdME: Agreed. Vista was terrible but Windows 8 was even worse.
"Let me just put a mobile OS on your desktop and see how you like it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)...".
Hard to properly evaluate for me, I only used 8 briefly, and then 8.1 briefly, before the free update to win 10. But yes, that wasn't particularly good.
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Magmarock: They could integrate that into the service pack. Or better yet just release a Windows 7 Skin for 10.
That would require the theming engine to be open enough to even customize without editing system files.

It isn't.
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Socratatus: p.s. i miss the good ole days when everything was a little more work, but optional. Freedom.
Try Linux then. Test it on your laptop and make the switch if it works for you.
Post edited September 10, 2018 by hmcpretender
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Socratatus: p.s. i miss the good ole days when everything was a little more work, but optional. Freedom.
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hmcpretender: Try Linux then. Test it on your laptop and make the switch if it works for you.
And die in infinite dependencies loop that, in the end, are not-so-optional.
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ChrisGamer300: Microsoft can go fuck themselves after all shit they keep pulling to force you to abandon older OS'es.
Should we tell him all software ever made eventually exits support?
Post edited September 10, 2018 by Plokite_Wolf
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No need to ever go back to Win 7 when Win 10 is sooo good.
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Darvond: A lot of people are making a bit of a fuss.
Which is very silly given that it's nothing new and has existed for years.
Oh i remember using vista on sisters pc and call of pripyat or some other stalker game wanted to format drive or something instead of playing it. Had to use a crack to play it there.
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johnnygoging: ...
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MadalinStroe: That's how it has always been. All these people calling Windows 7 the best OS Microsoft has ever made, will be forced to make the jump to Windows 11, or whatever the next one is called. And they'll believe it, to be so much better than their perceived failings of Windows 10, even though most would have surely been fixed. I personally noticed it happening with Win98, WinXP and now with Win7. I've never had any experience with Vista or 8, so I can't comment on these.

Early adopters of new Windows OSes have always faced problems, but those are usually fixed after the first year. What's left are those "features"(forced updates), that simply have become the new norm from now on. No matter how much you hate them, you'll still have to deal with them eventually.
8 really was kind of bad because it's kind of in this unfinished state. Microsoft clearly wanted to redesign much of Windows to be something that be would more at home on tablets and phones. Tablets were a fad then so Microsoft probably over-estimated their importance. So you had then this sort of windows half-and-half thing going on where some GUIs had been scaled back and/or replaced with the new Metro stuff. These GUIs may have been dependent on or synergised with other GUIs and it no longer worked together as well anymore. Those retained non-Metro GUIs may have been redesigned themselves which added to the confusion.

It didn't work particularly seamlessly. That, combined with the changes people would have had to adjust to anyway, essentially tanked it.
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idbeholdME: Agreed. Vista was terrible but Windows 8 was even worse.
"Let me just put a mobile OS on your desktop and see how you like it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)...".
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nightcraw1er.488: Hard to properly evaluate for me, I only used 8 briefly, and then 8.1 briefly, before the free update to win 10. But yes, that wasn't particularly good.
I only used it for a little while on my friend's computer and a few laptops. I've been using Windows my whole life before that and basic tasks on Windows 8 took me many times longer because it was completely unintuitive and it was obvious that to whoever designed it, mouse was a strange and alien concept.