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Posted November 08, 2017
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PainOfSalvation: https://kotaku.com/how-microsoft-almost-published-torchlight-and-other-me-1820176500
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MajicMan: Activision and EA get a lot of heat (a bunch deserved for killing studios), but Microsoft is the king of the heap in this regard.

Ensemble Studios, Lionhead Studios, Bungie, who decided to give up their baby Halo to get away from them, Rare - the only thing more rare than the studio's name is the last time they made a great game (we'll see about Sea of Thieves, if it ever comes out). They had Epic making Gears of War as an exclusive and Epic walked away from Microsoft like Bungie and decided a great IP wasn't worth keeping if it meant sticking with MS.

And when they sign great developers to make an IP they pull the plug all the time. Obsidian was making an XBoxOne exclusive RPG (Stormlands) that MS killed and almost sunk the company. Platinum was making the only truly original and interesting XBone game they showed off in Scalebound and MS killed that. Level 5 (developers of Dragon Quest 8 and 9, Dark Cloud 1 and 2, creators and developers of Jeanne D'Arc, Professor Layton, Yo-kai Watch, Rogue Galaxy, Fantasy Life and the Ni No Kuni series) had their MMO True Fantasy Live Online killed. They stopped being the publisher for the Blue Dragon series (which had a lot of great reviews to go with some average ones from some western outlets - it seemed to be a matter of taste in the west if the review liked JRPGs or not), but they never stick with anything to build up.

It's almost a wonder why MS has no XBox180 exclusives other than Halo and Forza.
I've made this complaint CONSTANTLY about MS, esp. about Mistwalker. I've also made the argument that it's cheaper to invest in 1st and 2nd party exclusives rather than buying timed exclusivity...see PS3 vs. X360 sales in Japan and Europe, esp. Europe.
There is also the case of letting a beloved dev. finish a game and take a loss for the huge amount of free PR it nets you....COUGHThe Last GuardianCOUGH.
Oh and you forgot to mention the Xbox has had FINISHED Japanese exclusives they don't translate and publish here or just don't publish. "Every Party" is a "Mario Party" clone that has an English language option in the Asian edition. The others that weren't translated by MS are "Magatama", "Phantom Dust", "Have A Mice Life" aka "Sneakers", "Ninety-Nine Knights 2", "N.U.D.E.(Natural Ultimate Digital Experiment) and there may be more MS of Japan published(not positive about. 99N's 2). Honorable mention goes to SMT IX as I heard MS nagged them for a MegaTen game and it's exclusive.
Posted November 08, 2017
Sad news. But thanks for the fun!

edit; typo
Post edited November 08, 2017 by petitmal
Posted November 08, 2017
Even as a Nintendo fan, I have to defend Microsoft with regards to Rare. I got the feeling Rare was already in decline even before Microsoft, and maybe Nintendo got that feeling too, which might explain their eager to sell their stake in Rare. For whatever reason, Rare was not able to adapt to games development in the post-N64 era. Even with the Gamecube they struggled. I don't think what happened to Rare was Microsoft's fault at all.

I also feel Nintendo did not treat Rare so well either. Imagine if Star Fox Adventures remained as Dinosaur Planet. I think it would have been much better. Microsoft seems to give Rare more freedom but they did not capitalize.
Posted November 08, 2017
Bahahahahaha. More fake news:

Microsoft says it will invest in developers and buy developers to build great exclusives

Can somebody name me one studio that isn't on the verge of going insolvent that will agree to terms with Micorsoft.

Show me one, and I will show you a group of idiots choosing to be unemployed.
Posted November 09, 2017
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doady: Even as a Nintendo fan, I have to defend Microsoft with regards to Rare. I got the feeling Rare was already in decline even before Microsoft, and maybe Nintendo got that feeling too, which might explain their eager to sell their stake in Rare. For whatever reason, Rare was not able to adapt to games development in the post-N64 era. Even with the Gamecube they struggled. I don't think what happened to Rare was Microsoft's fault at all.

I also feel Nintendo did not treat Rare so well either. Imagine if Star Fox Adventures remained as Dinosaur Planet. I think it would have been much better. Microsoft seems to give Rare more freedom but they did not capitalize.
I have to disagree with you here about Rare. Do you have Rare Replay...have you seen the all the videos for Rare games that MS canned?! They had a zombie horror type game, a racer that looked like it might be MS's own version of "Diddy Kong Racing" and "Kameo 2". There are others but those are the highlights in my opinion.
Posted December 29, 2017
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MajicMan: Bahahahahaha. More fake news:

Microsoft says it will invest in developers and buy developers to build great exclusives

Can somebody name me one studio that isn't on the verge of going insolvent that will agree to terms with Micorsoft.

Show me one, and I will show you a group of idiots choosing to be unemployed.
Mojang... well, it was more Notch agreeing to have an aircraft carrier filled with money dropped on his doorstep than anything his employees wanted but they were and still are far from insolvency. That's the only company I can think of tho.

In other news - Perfect World's Torchlight mobile game is now publicly available as a beta I guess:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pwrd.tlwest

It's about as soulless as one would think.

[EDIT] There is still a soft launch entry in google play that isn't available to the general public. If it isn't the same game as this one then Perfect World is really milking the Torchlight franchise dry. Way to ruin an awesome series...
Post edited December 29, 2017 by tremere110
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