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The first Summer Sale game giveaway is here with an action RPG Hellpoint available to claim now and keep forever.

Released less than a year ago, Hellpoint is a dark and challenging game set in a unique sci-fi universe where the line between science and occultism is blurred. Explore the ruins of Iris Novo space station, discover its gruesome secrets, encounter cruel interdimensional entities, and battle them using dozens of melee and ranged weapons.

Hellpoint giveaway runs until June 16th, 2021, at 1 PM UTC.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I've haven't been following this game, but it seems to be receiving middling reviews. Why is that? Is it actually bad? Or are people just bashing the game unfairly?
Some people don´t like the setting, some don´t like Souls-likes in general. Also, it´s not really an AAA game, so the graphics are not top notch DX13. Many reasons to bash it :)
Awesome giveaway. Thanks.
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Breja: I just don't want GOG's spam - I don't need it.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Fair enough.

But on the other hand, those same emails which you interpret as 'spam,' many other customers would not interpret as spam.

For a lot of customers, the GOG newsletter is useful for keeping us informed of new releases and/or new sales and/or exclusive discounts.
Absolutely. I have no problem with the newsletter existing. Or with people using it. Or liking it. But I don't want it, and I do find GOG's insitance on pushing it annoying, as I always do when someone is being pushy with something. And the previous "no strings attached" giveaways just felt more... I don't know, genuine. I know nothing has really changed, it was always a form of marketing, but now it's just so blatant. Very much in line really with how GOG changed from a very friendly business to a very business business.
Thanks for the freebie, GOG and tinyBuild! :)
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Breja: I just don't want GOG's spam - I don't need it.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Fair enough.

But on the other hand, those same emails which you interpret as 'spam,' many other customers would not interpret as spam.

For a lot of customers, the GOG newsletter is useful for keeping us informed of new releases and/or new sales and/or exclusive discounts.
Well, it's useful for some people? GREAT! Good for those!
We are not saying (me, Breja, others) that the newsletter should be removed as a functionality.
We are demanding for it to not be mandatory step in order to get a "free" item - as it's not "free" - it's "you're paying with your data" and we don't agree to that ;)
Post edited June 15, 2021 by B1tF1ghter
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Fair enough.

But on the other hand, those same emails which you interpret as 'spam,' many other customers would not interpret as spam.

For a lot of customers, the GOG newsletter is useful for keeping us informed of new releases and/or new sales and/or exclusive discounts.
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B1tF1ghter: Well, it's useful for some people? GREAT! Good for those!
We are not saying (me, Breja, others) that the newsletter should be removed as a functionality.
We are demanding for it to not be mandatory step in order to get a "free" item - as it's not "free" - it's "you're paying with your data" and we don't agree to that ;)
Paying with your data, ie, your email, which they already have. Time to delete your account.
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B1tF1ghter: Well, it's useful for some people? GREAT! Good for those!
We are not saying (me, Breja, others) that the newsletter should be removed as a functionality.
We are demanding for it to not be mandatory step in order to get a "free" item - as it's not "free" - it's "you're paying with your data" and we don't agree to that ;)
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Swissy88: Paying with your data, ie, your email, which they already have. Time to delete your account.
Are you ignorant or are you uninformed?
Either way, I won't repeat myself. Go read my previous posts, pay attention to the parts you skipped this time.
Also, nice try, pretty pathetic imo.
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B1tF1ghter: We are not saying (me, Breja, others) that the newsletter should be removed as a functionality.
We are demanding
Just to be abundantly clear (though I said this already) - I am not demanding anything. I'm saying I liked it better the way it worked before, and that I don't the way it works now, but it's GOG prerogative to make the giveaways conditional, just as it is mine to simply decline the offer.
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B1tF1ghter: If the privacy policy (which is btw very incomplete) is of use then yes.
About the "selling" part, honestly, I don't know and you won't either unless you have undercover insider in GOG.
But they are (according to their privacy policy) transferring data to undisclosed partners (since their privacy policy is written very vaguely in a way that gives to much room for interpretation and therefore to much freedom of usage for GOG itself).
So again, you've brought up that they could be selling it, but really there's no proof. For a person who seems well versed in legal proceedings, you do realize defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty with proof? Not to mention it's nearly impossible to do nearly anything on the internet involving a personal account without having to agree to a privacy policy. Anyway, I too a look at their trusted partners and brackets with its direct effects on average folks like me:

Operations:
- Zendesk Inc. for customer service (only see it in email addresses when contacting support, otherwise no direct effects)
- Google AdWords for online advertising (don't see anything with adblockers, so no direct effects)
- Google Surveys for optional surveys (don't do surveys except for customer support responses)
- GetResponse for email deliveries (optional if you don't sign up for newsletters)
- Analytical tool companies (could be anything ranging from Google Analytics to Tableau, no direct effects)
- Error tracking and crash reporting (I'll usually refund a game if the crashes are unbearable)
- Gamedevs / publishers if you activate their cosmetic "DRM" with their platforms (I don't care about cosmetic "DRM" in my single player games and if I do care, I'll just mod it in)
- Data storage companies for cloud saves (what are these guys going to do? make fun of how many hours it took me to beat Trails in the Sky FC?)
- Other companies for legal, tax, audit, and accounting (needed to actually do business)

GWENT (not a concern if you don't play this):
- CD Projekt if you play competitions
- Anti-cheating companies

Payment (obviously needed to ensure trust between users and GOG):
- Payment providers
- Banks and financial institutions
- Anti-fraud service providers

All of this seems pretty reasonable to me considering other legitimate companies are doing the exact same thing. Have you tried contacting GOG Support regarding these privacy issues and seeing what they have to say instead of presuming they're doing these things based on your work experience with other "shady" companies?

Basically you are saying that it is in your opinion not a problem (in general) because it's not a problem for YOU, nor you care, plus you don't ACTUALLY know how far this data can be used [...] But bashing others solely because they do care is just plain wrong. .
First, I'm not bashing you except for your terrible writing style, so stop getting high off your persecution complex fantasy and your moral high horse. I do want to care, but you're not giving any good reasons for other people to care.

What I'm trying to understand is how this data will be used later against me using recent historical examples. But from what I'm understanding with your comments, you're telling me to do my own research by reading more privacy policies, books with "actual researches" but no references to any specific books, to look at what other companies not directly connected with GOG, and to take your non-cited word on it instead of providing any examples of probability and consequences in any risk reports. If you know profiling data "can be used very far", then please explain to me what they can do.

Seriously, I can ring alarms about all the PPCPs and other micropollutants in your local water supply that has the potential to affect your hormone system and other long-term health effects in many different ways. This is widely suspected by wastewater experts, but without any direct links and effects, people are going to think we're all just crying wolf.

It does not however invalidate valid concerns. [...] I may fail to explain to you importance of privacy, how data can be used, and how people should not be forced to "pay with data" for "free" things, but my failure does not invalidate validity and existence of the points.
I'm trying, but you're not doing a very good job at explaining or citing data. What use is there in degrees or work experience if you can't teach or persuade people to agree with your ideas?

Well yes, because they are already fed with the biggest nonsense one can find, with BS shoved into them since young age, so then when they eventually (hopefully) meet someone that is actually right they will just fight and ignore him since they are to deep in their comfort zones to be able to accept the fact that they were taught wrongly and therefore they are far less capable of accepting changes.
I was referring to young people with higher education. No idea what kind of philosophical talk you're talking about.

Well what do you suggest then?
Typing normally like the rest of us? This isn't rocket science. And if it was, it'd still be in professional writing as per journal articles.

Have you ever considered I wasn't always doing it in these (specificly GOG's) forums? [...] Maybe it's just my lack of luck but this is my experience here and the consequences in my different writing patterns follow that. [...] I just know that major amount of users in these specific (once again: specificly GOG forums) pay less attention than on many other forums and some form of highlighting here seems to be required more than on some other forums.
And this has literally nothing to do with my manners.
If you have to use big caps to get your point across, you're either talking to the wrong audience or you're being condescending. I'll let you decide which one that is.

Ah, I envy your ability to casually ignore relevant parts of your own comparisons :P
In a work space there are rules you have to abide to, when you are for example required to pay attention to the ENTIRE email with all the wording in it to the smallest bit.
Whereas on the forums, especially apparently GOG forums, people pay little to no attention to exact wording used and often even skip entire segments only to then accuse somebody wrongly or come to wrong conclusions and shout at somebody because of that.
So then that's their fault, why do the rest of us have to be punished because of them? Doesn't give you enough justification for this terrible writing style for the rest of us. It's like a DRM for the rest of us just because a minority of the population can't understand your entire message.
Post edited June 15, 2021 by Canuck_Cat
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I've haven't been following this game, but it seems to be receiving middling reviews. Why is that? Is it actually bad? Or are people just bashing the game unfairly?
It's the people being unfairly bashed by the game.
Free Soulslike game. Neat!
We like free games, you do more yeah?
Imma need some entertainment, in a C19 quarantine right now...
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Oddeus: According to this, the next three giveaways are Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and Cyberpunk 2077.
ROFL! xD

Thx GOG for yet another unexpected summer sale freebie! :)
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i turned off subscriptions/news letter ageees ago. too much day lee spammage
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SmollestLight: Just to clear some things up, we kindly ask for your marketing consent as we'd like to stay in touch with you, let you know about the latest additions to our catalog, offers, and store updates. It also enables us to grow as a platform open for all gamers and expand our catalog of games as a result. Game giveaways like this one and the exclusive deals available only in our newsletters are our way of thanking you for your continuous support. <3
You didn't used to. It is only recently that you started requiring marketing e-mail consent for giveaways. So why the change? No one seems to think it is better this way. Most don't care, a few of us are so against it we are passing up free games, but I haven't seen even one person who thinks it is better this way. So why?

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Breja: Just to be abundantly clear (though I said this already) - I am not demanding anything. I'm saying I liked it better the way it worked before, and that I don't the way it works now, but it's GOG prerogative to make the giveaways conditional, just as it is mine to simply decline the offer.
This is exactly how I feel, which is why I have passed on every giveaway they have had since they started requiring marketing e-mail consent, but this is a game I was actually kinda interested in so they are really testing my resolve with this one. Sigh, guess I have 35 hours to decide if it is worth it or not.
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Dark_art_: Overall most helpful review by Mawthra states that Galaxy is not needed to multiplayer.
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Sachys: Looks like this may not be the case:
https://www.gog.com/forum/hellpoint/hows_does_the_multiplayer_work

I've checked and can't connect online - wont even let me select that tab in game.

Edit: can confirm galaxy is required for online play.
Well that is disappointing. That first post had me rather hopeful.
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