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Vythonaut: They may not be your thing, but you know very well that they'll sell like hot cakes should they be added in the GOG catalog. And personal taste aside, no, they're not on GOG yet, none of them.
Just provoking/teasing by stating my personal opinion about those tittles (actually, I only think Skyrim and Human Revolution are crap) didn't mean to seriously say your taste is shite. I did it because you stated that those you are going to buy and they aren't on GOG:P

My other opinion is that even if I am only interested in Civilization V and AvP 2, all those games are always welcome on GOG just so others who want them can buy them.
Post edited May 29, 2019 by Mafwek
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Vythonaut: Borderlands
Mass Effect
Skyrim
Dishonored
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Civilization V
Total War: Shogun 2
Diablo II
Aliens vs Predator II
Free Time Coupons (6 x 500h for a start)
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Mafwek: Majority of titles are shite and I didn't know GOG has them.
First off: Subjective taste is subjective.

Second: Modern games do not always = bad(many classic games are also subj/obj bad as well).
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Hikage1983: Who even owns the series rights anyway? Activision (who purchased GT and thus Raven) and/or Bethesda (for owning Id soft.) ?
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ChrisGamer300: As i understand it, both actually owns parts of the IP so Bethesda/ID and Activision will have to sit down and negotiate a deal for it to be re-released and it hasn't happened yet. I hate it when rights are split because it's always a pain to resurrect it when that happens.
Why are they available on Steam then? Did they get put there before the rights became problematic?
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ChrisGamer300: As i understand it, both actually owns parts of the IP so Bethesda/ID and Activision will have to sit down and negotiate a deal for it to be re-released and it hasn't happened yet. I hate it when rights are split because it's always a pain to resurrect it when that happens.
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idbeholdME: Why are they available on Steam then? Did they get put there before the rights became problematic?
I can be mistaken and i have not taken a look on Steam but is the whole series available there ?

I'm fairily certain i have heard that for them to be put on GOG they have to re-negotiate with both Activision and Bethesda since both own parts/assets of the series, i should have been more precise to explain that when i meant "re-released" it was aimed towards GOG. Don't take what i said to be 100% true because it might not be but it is what i have heard, it's a shame though, i don't exactly remember from where that was.
Post edited May 29, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
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ChrisGamer300: As i understand it, both actually owns parts of the IP so Bethesda/ID and Activision will have to sit down and negotiate a deal for it to be re-released and it hasn't happened yet. I hate it when rights are split because it's always a pain to resurrect it when that happens.
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idbeholdME: Why are they available on Steam then? Did they get put there before the rights became problematic?
Steam often has the pull/sales numbers to entice those who would otherwise balk at a GOG/smaller store release, and they allow for games to be DRM'd in various ways which some IP holders sadly still want.
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Mafwek: Just provoking/teasing by stating my personal opinion about those tittles (actually, I only think Skyrim and Human Revolution are crap) didn't mean to seriously say your taste is shite. I did it because you stated that those you are going to buy and they aren't on GOG:P
No hard feelings 'bout that. My taste must be shite indeed, at least that's what someone said when he learned i'm digging civilian flight sims ("they're boring, you don't do anything in them...") as much as i love their military counterparts... Not to mention Grand Prix Legends, because "you call that F1...?" or older games in general. Yeah, who cares? ;)

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Mafwek: My other opinion is that even if I am only interested in Civilization V and AvP 2, all those games are always welcome on GOG just so others who want them can buy them.
Even though Civ V might make an appearance soon, i can't say the same about AvP 2; i heard there are legal issues between the companies that own the rights, so unless these issues are resolved, we won't see a re-release.
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Vythonaut: Even though Civ V might make an appearance soon, i can't say the same about AvP 2; i heard there are legal issues between the companies that own the rights, so unless these issues are resolved, we won't see a re-release.
Yeah, heard that too. But as I said, even if we get titles which I don't like, good for all people on GOG.
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idbeholdME: Why are they available on Steam then? Did they get put there before the rights became problematic?
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ChrisGamer300: I can be mistaken and i have not taken a look on Steam but is the whole series available there ?

I'm fairily certain i have heard that for them to be put on GOG they have to re-negotiate with both Activision and Bethesda since both own parts/assets of the series, i should have been more precise to explain that when i meant "re-released" it was aimed towards GOG. Don't take what i said to be 100% true because it might not be but it is what i have heard, it's a shame though, i don't exactly remember from where that was.
Heretic II is missing there.

Everything else can be bought on Steam though.

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idbeholdME: Why are they available on Steam then? Did they get put there before the rights became problematic?
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GameRager: Steam often has the pull/sales numbers to entice those who would otherwise balk at a GOG/smaller store release, and they allow for games to be DRM'd in various ways which some IP holders sadly still want.
Activision has a ton of games here. ID has some games here too.

And these are very old games, so I don't quite understand where the problem currently is.
Post edited May 29, 2019 by idbeholdME
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GameRager: Second: Modern games do not always = bad(many classic games are also subj/obj bad as well).
Have you noticed my post which was slightly lower, in which I explained I was doing well meaning teasing/trolling?

Also, when art/entertainment is in the question, one should only really care about their subjective taste, unless that brings harm to other people (meaning: snuff films and something similar).
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GameRager: Steam often has the pull/sales numbers to entice those who would otherwise balk at a GOG/smaller store release, and they allow for games to be DRM'd in various ways which some IP holders sadly still want.
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idbeholdME: Activision has a ton of games here. ID has some games here too.

And these are very old games, so I don't quite understand where the problem currently is.
It all comes down to what I said and also whatever agreements they have with steam/etc and also what their higher ups decide is best for them.

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GameRager: Second: Modern games do not always = bad(many classic games are also subj/obj bad as well).
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Mafwek: Have you noticed my post which was slightly lower, in which I explained I was doing well meaning teasing/trolling?

Also, when art/entertainment is in the question, one should only really care about their subjective taste, unless that brings harm to other people (meaning: snuff films and something similar).
I just noticed that a few minutes ago, and was going to correct my reply to you but felt it was still mostly ok as a general statement. I do apologize that I mistook your meaning/intent, however. :)

Agreed on the rest as well, btw.
Post edited May 29, 2019 by GameRager
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Mafwek: Majority of titles are shite and I didn't know GOG has them.
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GameRager: First off: Subjective taste is subjective.

Second: Modern games do not always = bad(many classic games are also subj/obj bad as well).
I guess it must be your subjective view then as modern games are objectively bad :P

Anyway, don't really care for the games left here. Still want to buy Arx Fatalis, Jazz Jackrabbit Collection and Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Collection. Would also buy Warhammer®: Shadow of the Horned Rat, Final Liberation: Warhammer® Epic 40,000, Warhammer® 40,000: Chaos Gate and Black Moon Chronicles if GOG ever bothered to fix those, despite publishing 3/4.
Have already spent a couple k this year on physical (DRM-free) PC games and will likely continue to do so which leaves less for digital games anyway.
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GameRager: First off: Subjective taste is subjective.

Second: Modern games do not always = bad(many classic games are also subj/obj bad as well).
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Lucumo: I guess it must be your subjective view then as modern games are objectively bad :P

Anyway, don't really care for the games left here. Still want to buy Arx Fatalis, Jazz Jackrabbit Collection and Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Collection. Would also buy Warhammer®: Shadow of the Horned Rat, Final Liberation: Warhammer® Epic 40,000, Warhammer® 40,000: Chaos Gate and Black Moon Chronicles if GOG ever bothered to fix those, despite publishing 3/4.
Have already spent a couple k this year on physical (DRM-free) PC games and will likely continue to do so which leaves less for digital games anyway.
Nah, people just have on rose colored glasses w/regards to the past in many cases.

Some of your tastes are nice though....+1
Post edited May 29, 2019 by GameRager
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Lucumo: I guess it must be your subjective view then as modern games are objectively bad :P

Anyway, don't really care for the games left here. Still want to buy Arx Fatalis, Jazz Jackrabbit Collection and Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Collection. Would also buy Warhammer®: Shadow of the Horned Rat, Final Liberation: Warhammer® Epic 40,000, Warhammer® 40,000: Chaos Gate and Black Moon Chronicles if GOG ever bothered to fix those, despite publishing 3/4.
Have already spent a couple k this year on physical (DRM-free) PC games and will likely continue to do so which leaves less for digital games anyway.
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GameRager: Nah, people just have on rose colored glasses w/regards to the past in many cases.

Some of your tastes are nice though....+1
Hehe, it wasn't meant (completely) seriously, hence the smiley. I generally prefer older games over newer games though. Of course, at any time, there were tons of bad games around, however, older games often had a more unique approach to it and at times, they also shot for the stars (Shenmue series for instance). These days, bad habits like DLC, monetization practices etc drag gaming down and at the same time, the homogenization made gaming a lot less interesting. At first glance, it may not look like that, however, when you consider that PC gaming used to be completely separate from console gaming and PC gaming itself was divided into IBM compatibles, C64, ZX Spectrum etc and even Japanese PCs, it makes sense. Add to that lots of different engines and ideas and you had an interesting mix.
I've been playing games for like 24 years now (although in extremely limited capacity in the first 5-6) and for new games, it's always "been there, done that". Funnily enough, the chance is higher to find something new when I actually go back and look at the games of old. The charm of them helps too, so that the technical limitations of the time don't matter that much. Currently, I'm playing Warcraft II (beat the first game earlier this week) while dabbling with PC 88 games which is pretty fun.
I might get Wonder Boy TDT, Swords of Ditto, The Messenger, Tanglewood, Battle Princess Madelyn based on discount.
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GameRager: Nah, people just have on rose colored glasses w/regards to the past in many cases.

Some of your tastes are nice though....+1
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Lucumo: Hehe, it wasn't meant (completely) seriously, hence the smiley. I generally prefer older games over newer games though. Of course, at any time, there were tons of bad games around, however, older games often had a more unique approach to it and at times, they also shot for the stars (Shenmue series for instance). These days, bad habits like DLC, monetization practices etc drag gaming down and at the same time, the homogenization made gaming a lot less interesting. At first glance, it may not look like that, however, when you consider that PC gaming used to be completely separate from console gaming and PC gaming itself was divided into IBM compatibles, C64, ZX Spectrum etc and even Japanese PCs, it makes sense. Add to that lots of different engines and ideas and you had an interesting mix.
I've been playing games for like 24 years now (although in extremely limited capacity in the first 5-6) and for new games, it's always "been there, done that". Funnily enough, the chance is higher to find something new when I actually go back and look at the games of old. The charm of them helps too, so that the technical limitations of the time don't matter that much. Currently, I'm playing Warcraft II (beat the first game earlier this week) while dabbling with PC 88 games which is pretty fun.
Not a problem....I just often explain myself/apologize alot to avoid needless arguments from springing up due to misunderstandings. :)

As for bad practices....yes,m some arte bad, but if the work they produce is good then they should still be considered good even if one dislikes the practice that brought them about(Example: Some modern storyline DLCs for some games are very good and add much to the main games they belong to).

As for me: I'm playing older P-n-Clicks like The Dig/Gabriel Knight 1/etc, and also some shooter like Redneck Rampage...good times.