You misconstrue. I find the idea of forcing a woman to carry to full term to be morally repugnant. So when I say that abortion is for the most part amoral, I am not suggesting that it should be criminalized. I'm simply being honest.

You noticed that, did you? o.O

Back @ topic:

Upon inspection of my private messages, I noticed to my great dismay that my exchanges with Linko are gone. This would imply that not only has Pinko's account been deleted, but that all the private correspondence he had with users here has been nuked as well.

This is a great loss. I was hoping for something like LinkoLeaks to happen, with someone releasing the messages from all those sycophants that tried to urge Linko into swinging the banhammer at people they disagree with over political trivialities. Especially since those same people are now more than happy to throw him under the bus.

I'm sure many a crocodile tear has been shed in Linko's PM box. It would have been HILARIOUS to see that stuff!

Actually I interpreted this as the way in which people treat one another has answered the forum's title.
After all, it's not the content of the discussion that has caught the attention of Chandra so far, it's the personal attacks and name-calling and such.

Sadly it's all too common for forum members to go for the throat the moment their opinion is challenged, and that inevitably ends in threads getting locked by moderators. If "Linko contravercy" content was leading to censorship (and locks) by default, then this thread would have been shut down long ago.

Perish the thought! lol

I'm just saying it was a self fulfilling prophecy.
This.

I would agree if the artificial womb were real, but it is not. The problem is, if you have a dichotomy, one must be moral. To say it is amoral to force a woman to term, yet also say it is amoral to abort, well, it's kind of like saying "smoking is immoral, but to ban it is also immoral, so we should allow someone to smoke and violate the airspace of others, so that I don't have to make a forcible solution." Would it make sense to say that you are basing this on the non-aggression principle? If so, the unborn and those getting secondhand smoke are having aggression thrust upon them (i'm sure we could get into "but it's her body," but at that point it's only half hers, since she made the choice [except in cases of rape, which is why so many are divided on it] to take a risky action that she was aware could produce the situation where she would want to terminate a fetus [what really kills me is the amount of abortions due to lack of proper usage of normal preventative methods, and i even know one abortion supporter personally who regularly sleeps with various people and refuses to even use so much as a condom]).
Honestly, i would be interested in seeing such leaks for all blue PM boxes. I have plenty of suspicions, and i wouldn't mind seeing if they are true.

It's usually this way, everywhere. However, usually a community can hold other members to standard, especially by ostracization, especially by simply ignoring posts that have gotten too personal (or calling it out once or twice and then ignoring to help someone know why they're being ignored). However, the ban hammer and locking of threads makes implementing such an idea here near impossible. Add to it that "mark as spam with 200 alts" thing and you end up with a toxic community. Whenever people have a weapon to use against their opponents, they use it. On the Egosoft (creators of the X series), i caught that the rules were being unequally enforced (you can insult trump supporters, but not the anti-trump crowd, when the rule states that personal attacks are not allowed), and when i called it out (that a particular had called trump supporters nazis on the first page) i was warned that I could end up banned for questioning a moderator decision. Now, here, we know that if we want a thread locked, all we have to do is start a personal fight and get a bunch involved (which has been happening in alot of threads). Soon, we'll learn that if we want someone banned, we can get under their skin with something seemingly innocuous and get them to initiate personal attacks (GOG doesn't seem to be favoring one side or the other, at the present moment).

It's kinda how things are running right now with the outrage mobs: they discovered that they can cry naz--wolf and people will either rally on their side or not stay out of the way. You give people a weapon, and they will use it to win. Do you expect to bring a knife to a gun fight tht you intend on participating in? Of course not, and even if it's supposed to be a knife fight, you now someone's bringing a gun. We can have our semi-civilized boxing matches to solve our problems, so long as we expect no one to bring a knife. We could have civilized debates, so long as hitting doesn't come into the picture. But, right now, the rule is "at any cost." The rallying cry in the US for the left is "at any cost," so naturally the right in the US hears that winning is more important than playing by the rules, which is probably why we're seeing an uptick in violence.

If you turn off messaging, or block a user from messaging you, that message history is nuked.

I said I find the idea of forcing a woman to carry to full term morally *repugnant*, not amoral, which strongly implies that I think it is *immoral*.

"Amoral" and "immoral" have very different meanings.

The fact that this thread has not been locked yet basically disproves the premise of the whole point of the thread. Threads aren't being locked solely due to the subject being discussed. I've been in the other threads that were locked they devolved into name-calling nonsense, the mods gave warnings about the name-calling nonsense, it continued, the mods locked the threads.

This isn't some kind of mystery or conspiracy. Plenty of the previous threads were allowed to go on far longer than they reasonably should have and this one is no different and the mods have given warnings prior to locking the threads each time. There have been plenty of posts moderated for language of personal attacks in this thread already and multiple warnings. If this thread gets locked are people going to complain that they're being silenced? It's your own fault if you can't play nice in the sandbox.

The only thing that's proved is that Linko closed down any thread for whatever reason and people wouldn't make protest threads about that in direct violation of his clear cut directive, they wouldn't cry censorship, they wouldn't whine about the SJW and political correctness and the antifa and the leftists and cultural marxism and shit. They just accepted it. And it really wasn't because Linko was such a great moderator. It was mostly because he had a penis.

They just accepted it.

This made me laugh.........Really?......They had no choice or cop a ban as he couldn't give a fair hearing.

I do not think there is any academic proof that just because a given demographic is 7 percentage of the population that it wil become a majority in the future. Acoording to a morning consult poll (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015e-0bfa-d354-abfe-abfa67c10000), 7% of white americans express a favorable view of white supremacists, if we apply your logic to that group, we will shortly have a country in the US where about half the country has a positive view of white supremacists.

No, I think it is much more accurate to point out that the sort of people who suppressed and/or supported the suppression of Linko90's free speech are literally a smaller number than there are pro-white supremacists. That is to say, these people are on the radical margins of discussion in the west and there infulence on our art, culture and other media should, all things being equal, be just as marginalized as their positions.

That this is clearly not the case in game publishing or journalism tells us that some other factors are disrupting the process and giving a radical marginalized viewpoint the trappings of a mainstream majority view. It is not. And only by repeatedly pointing out they are litterally less popular than white supremacists are we ever going to have normality in gaming again.

I'll let the authors of the study refute your point on political correctness for me - short-answer: multi-variable anaylsis was used and your concerns are unfounded:

"How did you define political correctness?

‘Political correctness’ is a complex and subjective phenomenon, with no single definition. As such, we did not provide respondents with a definition but instead our study contained many questions that seek to explore different angles of the subject. These included asking about dynamics of discourse on multiple subject areas: race and racism; sex, gender, and sexuality; immigration; and Islam and Muslims. For each of these subjects, we gauged whether Americans think people have become “too sensitive”. We also measured whether “today in America” people feel “pressure to think a certain way” about each of these subjects, or if instead it was “acceptable” for them to express their views. We further asked Americans whether they experienced pressure in the context of being with “people like me.” Additionally, we asked whether “political correctness is a problem” directly. Finally, we explored these subjects in our in-depth interviews and focus groups. Depending on the framing of the question used, we found that between half and 80% of Americans reported a degree of frustration or self-censorship."
No, I am arguing because your opinion is demonstratably a radical fringe position mascarading as mainstream truth. The emperor is naked and it's not pretty.

Ok, let's use your logic universially : if we are to take seriously the 7% of the population that supports suppressing free speech, then we should should take just as seriously the 7% of the white population who hold favorable views of white supremacism. I know they shouldn't think that way, but well, they do!

I would wager that you don't think the voices of white supremacists should be given much weight in the public sqaure... well, if so, then how can you claim to be objective and then say that other group with a fringle opinion should be given a forum for their radical position? Being allowed to track down employees, dox them, harass them, harass their employer and have them fired all in the name of a political agenda?