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Cadenza: I actually like Morrigan a lot but for some reason I am really not liking Yennefer but that's just based on what has been said here so far.
To be fair to her, Sapkowski wrote Yennefer as a good character: tough, smart, brave, and generally more powerful than Triss. She always seems to grasp the essence of sorceress politics before Triss does, but then, she's more cynical for understandable reasons. She may be a powerful and beautiful sorceress by the time readers meet her, but she was an abused and physically handicapped child before that. She has her reasons for being defensive.

I still prefer Triss, though. She gets along better with dwarves. Always a plus.
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skylineR390: you guys talk of Yeneffer as if she were part of the game. She might be on the books, but so far I only know her through flashbacks.

At this point any speculation is pointless since we don't know how CDPR will portray her character in the game and how faithful, if at all, they will be to the books;

We'll see when TW3 comes out, but until then, I still prefer my Triss....




BTW, does anybody know were can I find the music that is played in the Nilfgardian camp, in CHP3. Is not in the official soundtrack nor in the GoG bonus tracks.
It's a very dark, melancholic theme, and at the same time exiting. it suited my mood perfectly when I was slaying the scumbags to get to triss.
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/the_witcher_2/soundtrack_lots_of_missing_music
You'll have to take your time trying to find the music after extracting though.
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Cadenza: I actually like Morrigan a lot but for some reason I am really not liking Yennefer but that's just based on what has been said here so far.
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kyogen: To be fair to her, Sapkowski wrote Yennefer as a good character: tough, smart, brave, and generally more powerful than Triss. She always seems to grasp the essence of sorceress politics before Triss does, but then, she's more cynical for understandable reasons. She may be a powerful and beautiful sorceress by the time readers meet her, but she was an abused and physically handicapped child before that. She has her reasons for being defensive.

I still prefer Triss, though. She gets along better with dwarves. Always a plus.
i haven't read the books, but from what letho says, yennefer definitely hews more towards the sorceress template we see in sile, sabrina, and philippa. she'd be able to hold her own among them without any trouble whatsoever.

meanwhile, triss is portrayed as not having the toughness/cruelty of the others.
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I've avoided spoilers (because I prefer to find things in the games), so I may end up wrong, but from a strictly "played the game" perspective, I have to say that some judgement on Triss are quite harsh.

She is holding things from Geralt, sure. And in her "work", she deceive and manipulate.
But it doesn't mean that she doesn't really care for Geralt. She always took the path that stand by him, and always took risks for him.

The thing is, it's not because she love Geralt that it means she doesn't have her secrets, and it doesn't necessarily means she's betraying him. It seems lots of people tend to have a far too much protagonist-centered morality and exclusive loyalties.
I know that I held up lots of information for myself, without telling some people, and without meaning that I attempted to betray them. I know that I purposedly didn't take part in some battle because I liked both sides of the fight and had a "divided loyalties" problem.
Though it seems it's okay if Geralt does it, and it's a major sin if Triss has the same problem ? Doesn't compute !

Sure, she may have held a bit too much, but I see it, again, as someone torn between two competing loyalties, and having some higher goals, rather than just being a cheating bitch. And you can call on her about this anyway, and her answers felt rather satisfactory. For a game much more realistic in its depiction of events than most, I find it refreshing that it's not all protagonist-centered, and that the morality of people aren't entirely dependent on how they treat the hero.
Couldn't have put it better. Especially this:

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Akka: For a game much more realistic in its depiction of events than most, I find it refreshing that it's not all protagonist-centered, and that the morality of people aren't entirely dependent on how they treat the hero.
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Akka: I've avoided spoilers (because I prefer to find things in the games), so I may end up wrong, but from a strictly "played the game" perspective, I have to say that some judgement on Triss are quite harsh.

She is holding things from Geralt, sure. And in her "work", she deceive and manipulate.
But it doesn't mean that she doesn't really care for Geralt. She always took the path that stand by him, and always took risks for him.

The thing is, it's not because she love Geralt that it means she doesn't have her secrets, and it doesn't necessarily means she's betraying him. It seems lots of people tend to have a far too much protagonist-centered morality and exclusive loyalties.
I know that I held up lots of information for myself, without telling some people, and without meaning that I attempted to betray them. I know that I purposedly didn't take part in some battle because I liked both sides of the fight and had a "divided loyalties" problem.
Though it seems it's okay if Geralt does it, and it's a major sin if Triss has the same problem ? Doesn't compute !

Sure, she may have held a bit too much, but I see it, again, as someone torn between two competing loyalties, and having some higher goals, rather than just being a cheating bitch. And you can call on her about this anyway, and her answers felt rather satisfactory. For a game much more realistic in its depiction of events than most, I find it refreshing that it's not all protagonist-centered, and that the morality of people aren't entirely dependent on how they treat the hero.
Very well said +1
Glad to see that cyber space is not fully depleted of intelligent life :)

The problem (and this is not new it has been around since forever) is that most players demand to be a centre of attention (something that BioWare games constantly encourage as well).

There is nothing wrong with a protagonist being a part of a living, breathing world and not an absolute centre of it.
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Ebon-Hawk: Amazing... you are worrying about Witcher 4 already.
And supporting some sort of emotional blackmail of CDPR because someone/somewhere THINKS they might not do the setting and the characters justice in the future.
I suppouse with a track history of failures on CDPR behalf that would be valid, but they are yet to fail (at least in my opinion).
In other words you are turning this into another social.bioware.com and EXPECTING fan service?
I dunno how you can come to that conclusion and i dont frequent bioware's forums so i dont really understand what you mentioned.

But yea Yennefer deserves some justice in the sequels because she was an important character in the books, not only Triss. Plus they cant afford to leave Yennefer as a "reference character from the books", like i said shes a crucial plot together with Ciri. For a non-reader of the novels they wont give a damn about Yen and Ciri but for people who read and enjoy the lore, it is important to them. Im not saying that Triss should be kicked out of the game which i think why you're offended or something?

Anyways nothing wrong with worrying and pinning my concerns? Its not a sin right? Aint like im actively purposely making a bad name of CDPR. I'll apologise if your're hardcore zealous fan and took offence though...
Post edited June 17, 2011 by deathcoy
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Ebon-Hawk: Amazing... you are worrying about Witcher 4 already.
And supporting some sort of emotional blackmail of CDPR because someone/somewhere THINKS they might not do the setting and the characters justice in the future.
I suppouse with a track history of failures on CDPR behalf that would be valid, but they are yet to fail (at least in my opinion).
In other words you are turning this into another social.bioware.com and EXPECTING fan service?
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deathcoy: I dunno how you can come to that conclusion and i dont frequent bioware's forums so i dont really understand what you mentioned.

But yea Yennefer deserves some justice in the sequels because she was an important character in the books, not only Triss. Plus they cant afford to leave Yennefer as a "reference character from the books", like i said shes a crucial plot together with Ciri. For a non-reader of the novels they wont give a damn about Yen and Ciri but for people who read and enjoy the lore, it is important to them. Im not saying that Triss should be kicked out of the game which i think why you're offended or something?

Anyways nothing wrong with worrying and pinning my concerns? Its not a sin right? Aint like im actively purposely making a bad name of CDPR. I'll apologise if your're hardcore zealous fan and took offence though...
No offense intended, no offense taken :)
I am a Polish, just happen to live oversees at this time, I have read the books and seen the series/movie, but I keep my enjoyment of the game separate from enjoyment of books and canon.
That being said I happen to be a big fan of Ciri and Renfri :)
Post edited June 17, 2011 by Ebon-Hawk
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Akka: She is holding things from Geralt, sure. And in her "work", she deceive and manipulate.
But it doesn't mean that she doesn't really care for Geralt. She always took the path that stand by him, and always took risks for him.

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Sure, she may have held a bit too much, but I see it, again, as someone torn between two competing loyalties, and having some higher goals, rather than just being a cheating bitch. And you can call on her about this anyway, and her answers felt rather satisfactory. For a game much more realistic in its depiction of events than most, I find it refreshing that it's not all protagonist-centered, and that the morality of people aren't entirely dependent on how they treat the hero.
Hear, hear! I personally really like Triss as a character because she's unusually independent of the protagonist in terms of motivation and actions. You generally don't see a companion NPC, especially a female one, both working with the PC and pursuing other goals that they would rather not involve the PC in. I like the idea of a companion NPC that will occasionally leave me out of the loop, because that creates (as people have said) that makes the character feel more realistic and well-rounded.

I have to say, I had my doubts about her remaining this sort of strong, well-rounded character when she got captured at the end of Chapter 1 because of the whole "damsel in distress" thing. But (given certain endgame choices) when you break her out of the dungeon, she immediately hits the ground running with a plan that ends up averting a massacre and restoring the Council of Sorcerers to power - i.e., actively and independently pursuing her own goals. I have to say, I was very happy to see that in the game.
Post edited June 18, 2011 by Kahunaburger
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Cadenza: Jennifer Hale. Yay
Jennifer Hale at her finest. Singing in Scooby-Doo =o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QcCY8X87A4