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fronzelneekburm: Nuh-uh, princess.
Us dudes don't like grifters, simple as that.
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xSinghx: Sure, thus the Alt-right love for Trump, and sites like Info Wars, etc. - a real concern for grift.
Maybe we *all* need to pull our heads out of our asses, wipe the shit of our eyes, and wake the fuck up. lol
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wonder if feminists get triggered cos feMALE,woMAN, woMEN all has words that are male in it :P
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kai2: You've twisted what's been said, inaccurately stated that direct rebuttals of your arguments are lacking substance...
There's nothing you've rebutted. You not knowing the difference between that and a vapid assertion is not my problem.

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kai2: ...and then tried to turn the conversation toward ridiculous "20 questions"
Questioning your empty assertions is me being charitable - as opposed to simply ridiculing your inability to support your own claims (though I may have managed to do both). :)

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kai2: ...in hopes of somehow pulling your argument out of a nosedive
I don't remember putting forward an argument - simply a view that agreed with and elaborated on someone else's. There's nothing I really need to defend as there's nothing threatening about generic aphorisms, or cliche right wing talking points, what-about-isms and familiar diatribes you're reciting from others. If you don't have the intelligence or work ethic to question any of that yourself - why should I be obligated to waste my time spoon-feeding you?

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kai2: Usually I'd leave such a ridiculous response as yours alone...
Given you think 'change toward a more just and equal society is inevitable' through 'a conflict free process' displaying no awareness, understanding or critique of systems of power - I'm failing to see why anything you find ridiculous should be a concern to me or anyone else.

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kai2: I am Center Left. You feel the need to attack my self-identification. Is that really a winning argument for someone on the Left?
From what you've written you seem more confused, lazy, and prone to repeating others than could be properly described as ideologically left, right, or center. Which is probably why you spout gibberish like:

"Are people who value honsety[sic] and truthfulness Alt-Right? If that's the case, all idealists are Alt-Right. Do you even realize you're arguing that very case?"

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kai2: You decry picking “low hanging fruit” as chum for the Alt-Right, but in doing so you make an argument for inaction when truth is inconvenient.
The inconvenient truth here (as I already stated) is that Anita wouldn't exist without the Alt-right. You are aware of some basic facts about her yes? Her Kickstarter campaign was fairly modest in raising money for some Youtube videos before the alt-right adopted her as their death threat pinata and through that made her into a thing overnight and really, largely deserve the credit for her raising the funds that she did (as many in this thread have even said). How exactly is that grift? Should I also despise the Sandy Hook Parents that are going to win millions from Alex Jones because he adopted them as his pet conspiracy project? Are they grifters too?

The second notion that she is someone on the left is the kind of confused political laziness I was describing earlier. I don't recall Ralph Nadar asking for money from auto makers while simultaneously forcing them into carrying seat belts in their cars. There are plenty of corporate democrats (see an actual understanding for center right) that have concerns about representation, talk about social equality etc but are completely divorced from any understanding of class struggle, capitalism, and how that relates to marginalizing 'others' -all subjects I don't remember ever making the cut into the Sarkeesian videos I watched.

Again, the absurdity of people in this thread should be self-evident, sadly like you they think they 'have a point' or worse (self-flatteringly) 'an argument' that isn't simply a transparent chew-toy for their own political laziness and ineptitude. These kinds of reactionary threads pop up all the time. The Alt-right/right will inevitably manufacture a new Anita, a new war on Xmas, or w/e is necessary to avoid introspection and an actual knowledge or understanding of anything. Yawn.

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kai2: I do have feminists who I respect.

Mary Wollstonecraft, leader of the movement for Womens' suffrage.
I asked for someone that is dealing with questioning or challenging the status quo of today not 1920 - or did all the problems get solved then in your mind? You bring up Steinem which again suggests a naivety about left right and center as she's highly criticized these days. The question was simply rhetorical to illustrate you're lack of any real interest in the subject. Easy peasy.

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kai2: Lastly, by the way you ended your response (regarding authors), you obviously have no idea who Jack Thompson is..
You editing your post while I'm responding to what you've already written isn't my problem it's yours. Take some responsibility and try writing in a more complete and generally discernible manner.

Also are they teaching Jack in political philosophy classes these days that I should be impressed with you mentioning his name? Hey I'm not Bill Maher if it makes you feel better. Do I win something?

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kai2: I have no more time for your idiocy. Feel free to keep screaming “silopsism” [sic] ... I have no more time to spend on your childishness.
Of course you don't you still need to learn how to spell solipsism.
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fronzelneekburm: Nuh-uh, princess.
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Fairfox: nah, its teh same old peeps. same peeps, diff'rent women. i stick with my original feelin'
Well, you know how the old saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water..."
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I don't know why it took me so long to realize, ignore it and it'll go away!
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Crosmando: She's also begging CD Projekt for money on twitter too, lol.
My goodness, the tone of that tweet sounds exactly like those old mafia/ransom movies:
"It's a pretty restaurant/[close relative] you got there! Would be shame if something happened to it/them."
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Cadaver747: give us your life story
That would be out of topic, i fear. Besides, in a local forum, in which such freaks have moderators of their ilk, who break the rules and give away personal info of members they don't like, i regularly confessed slice of life stories, enough to fill 3 persons' lives, not 1. Their latest "achievement" was to force me outside of a working environment, drive me away from a place of studies and the heaviest blow i 've ever sustained; take away from me, the person we had something going on. Which happened to be the only person who genuinely liked me, ever.
Post edited June 25, 2019 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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xSinghx: ...
I made it about halfway through your little diatribe before I gave up. You just used a whole lot of words saying nothing of any value whatsoever. This makes me sad.

In the good ole days, this forum would attract colorful characters like Vainamoinen, who at least had the decency to phrase their agitprop drivel in a moderately entertaining fashion. Yours was just kinda sad and depressing to read.

But I'm probably giving you people way too much credit. Anyway, have my -1.

*Moded, please be polite when posting on the forum.
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fronzelneekburm: I made it about halfway through your little diatribe before I gave up. You just used a whole lot of words saying nothing of any value whatsoever. This makes me sad.

In the good ole days, this forum would attract colorful characters like Vainamoinen, who at least had the decency to phrase their agitprop drivel in a moderately entertaining fashion. Yours was just kinda sad and depressing to read. Whenever I read posts like yours, I wonder whether you actually believe the shit you just typed, or if you're really a neon nazi agent provocateur attempting to accelerate the culture war by making people hate the regressive left even more.

But I'm probably giving you people way too much credit. Anyway, have my -1. Choke on it, commie.
Don't understand the point of picture, all pictured examples are Marxist-Leninists, and as such refer to only one many different theories of communism. For bonus points, Russians never claimed they were communists, but socialists.
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Mafwek: Don't understand the point of picture, all pictured examples are Marxist-Leninists, and as such refer to only one many different theories of communism. For bonus points, Russians never claimed they were communists, but socialists.
Thank you, Mafwek. At least some people know about history of my country.
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Cadaver747: Thank you, Mafwek. At least some people know about history of my country.
Are you sincere?
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Cadaver747: Thank you, Mafwek. At least some people know about history of my country.
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Mafwek: Are you sincere?
Absolutely. Why?
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moobot83: wonder if feminists get triggered cos feMALE,woMAN, woMEN all has words that are male in it :P
Interestingly enough ye olde English had words werman and wifman (not the only possible form for it though) for men and women. Man originally met just human, whereas wer and wif indicated gender. Hence werewolf literally means manwolf.
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Cadaver747: Absolutely. Why?
Because internet is full of irony and sarcasm, and I am still absolutely wrecked by exhaustion to have a decent chance of making a correct assessment is it irony or not.

Although if I have to be honest, this has a more to do with Croatia formerly being the part of Socialist Yugoslavia, country also having a socialist regime based on Marxist-Leninism than with my pretty basic knowledge of Russian history.
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Cadaver747: Absolutely. Why?
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Mafwek: Because internet is full of irony and sarcasm, and I am still absolutely wrecked by exhaustion to have a decent chance of making a correct assessment is it irony or not.

Although if I have to be honest, this has a more to do with Croatia formerly being the part of Socialist Yugoslavia, country also having a socialist regime based on Marxist-Leninism than with my pretty basic knowledge of Russian history.
I'm also a bit tired of how some users claim USSR/Russia to be an absolute evil just because. Your statement based on historical fact about socialism was like a breath of fresh air. I like to be ironical occasionally, but not this time.