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We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but
You're too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it

And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

(Ooh, give you up)
(Ooh, give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)

We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but
You're too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
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Please hold, your call is important to us.

I think SirPrimalform is saying he's not participating in the discussion any longer. The beeps are not making a comment on what you posted, but simply that he's done talking about the matter.

Thanks for confirming that, I was starting to suspect as much, but am still surprised at the anti-intellectual display.

Interesting how he does that the moment I point out that what Linko90 said is not controversial because only 7-8% of the population think that his free speech should be suppressed. Without this assumption supporting the structure upon which his ideas are based, his entire argument crumbles into apologetics for progressive activists.

I have met people like SirPrimalform before, the sort that only like arguing when everyone accepts their suppositions and assumptions. When they are shown to be false, they try to play it off with awkward and/or comedic attempts at dominance to show their aloofness from it all. A bit like a child taking their ball and going home to try and stop the game...

In fact it will damage their business because by catering to some illogical demands made by terrorists they're antagonizing their loyal (and core) customers. The tweets on CD Projekt/GOG twitter accounts were in no way offensive so firing Linko90 over this is a dick move by GOG and a new low.

Everyone should follow this advice: https://youtu.be/12cv-nOmyEk

@PanzerFranzz
I've been upvoting your comments like crazy.
:salute:




* Moded. Using derogatory and offensive terms is not acceptable.



I reported him.

Ok, just this.

To summarize where I stand as a person, that is, where my post "comes from" :

- I am against Linko's firing (if it's based on that tweet)
- I am on the ravenous liberal side (I have infinitely much more sympathy, esteem and respect for a SirPrim or Vainam than for any Richlind or Rwarehall)
- I do think that internet's global communication has the perverse effect of putting different subcultures in contact without providing the codes required to comprehend them, and that out culture of speed and our glorification of knee-jerk responses (and "strong positions") make such comprehension impossible.
- I consider that the offensiveness of that hashtag's deliberate misuse was overblown.
- I don't believe in good faith in internet gaming forums (that is, in actual intentions of "communicating", "discussing", "understanding", etc). These exchanges tend to be pure "everything goes" attempts at "scoring points" with no regard for intellectual honesty. And I loathe this. So, expect general contempt from my side.

Make of that background what you want. But from there, I'd just like to point out this :

There is absolutely zero "intellectualism" in the way that these stats from the More In Commons Hidden Tribes reports are being used here. Not only the source data itself is a tad dubious (I'm a bit prejudiced against thinktanks, be they left-winged or right-winged, and the stats they show here result from a very clunky methodology, questions with ambiguous and loaded terms, etc), but that data is lazily misused in your post's rhetorics (equating those 8% "progressive activists" to the people outraged by Linko's tweet, based on their statistically lower scare of "poltical correctness"). The mere fact that you directly identify positions with groups instead of checking distribution ("49% of A think this while 51% of B think this therefore B thinks this and A doesn't") shows a very superficial interest in the matter, but that's almost a detail. Jumping from "don't think PC is an issue" to "having no problem with that tweet" is dishonest, given how "political correctness" means something different to so many people, and in particular seeing the large overlap, in these statistics, between people who "think PC is a problem" and those who "think hate speech is a problem". A person who'd consider a given tweet to be problematic ("hate speech") would be called oppressively "politically correct" by the tweet's aother, and yet would be statistically likely to denounce "political correctness" themself.

Anyway, that's some of the issues that you overlook. Questionning the data (for instance : what people meant by "PC" when they complain about it), and thinking about what the data actually tells and doesn't tell (something you didn't give much time to, eager to instrumentalize the most convenient inference possible) would have been the first steps in a genuine discussion.

My point is : Don't play the "science" card if it's just to cherry pick vague numbers with zero reflexivity, for cheap rhetorical effects. The reality is : you don't even care about the realities behind it, but just seek to re-use whatever argument sounds cool enough (to yourself and your side). And that's the norm on such boards.

So yeah, when I read stuff like
I do giggle.

Projecting much?

Still mad because I called you out on the White Helmets? lol

You're a dyed-in-the-wool establishmentarian, nothing more, nothing less. Bravo. o.O

A toxic cesspit like this is no place for a fair lady such as thee to be! lol

Oh, right, I had completely forgotten how serious your case of alt-right conspirationism is. Thanks for reminding me this episode. I should keep better track of the kind of individuals that roam this forum.

A Snopes link, Telika? lol

So you still believe the lies. Wow. I really thought you were a bit better than that.

For myself, I'll side with The Corbett Report, John Pilger and Vanessa Beeley every single day, because they're honest; you, on the other hand, side with establishment mouthpieces like the Guardian. And Snopes. o.O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNwe7yKbwo

How did this become a discussion about free speech? The Linko90 situation has nothing to do with freedom of speech.

No no, I'm just part of the Conspiracy.

It's hard to know when you rely on coporate media and "fact checkers" -- assuming that you even *want* to know.

The US, EU, NATO and Russia are *all* part of the problem, as is "the left" and "the right".