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amok: if you are a good PR / CM you think about your organisation first and its image, he need to anticipate any fallout from ny messsages. it would have been perfectly fine to promote Postal 2 on twitter without using that gif at all.
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RWarehall: Right...

And one of your major clients gives you a promotional gif to be used and that gives you the right to ignore them?
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RWarehall: Put yourself in his position. A successful game developer sent you a gif to be used for promotion. You tweet every other game with a gif. Are you as a PR person going to make that decision yourself over the developer? Remember that Running with Scissors is a client that makes your company money.

It seems to me, all of you forget that hindsight is 20/20. You are pretending that a controversy should have been expected. It's POSTAL 2. It's an outrageous game. How could anyone have reasonably predicted there would be an outrage at GoG over a game that is well-known to be over-the-top? Of course the game itself was going to get a little flak, but no one could reasonably expect it to be targeted at GoG and RWS didn't have a problem with it.
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amok: if you are a good PR / CM you think about your organisation first and its image, he need to anticipate any fallout from any messages.

it would have been perfectly fine to promote Postal 2 on twitter without using that gif at all.
Anyone that's oblivious to gamergate is unqualified to do game-related promotion, and that should go without saying.
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RWarehall: Right...

And one of your major clients gives you a promotional gif to be used and that gives you the right to ignore them?
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amok: yes
It's truly ironic how you claim things aren't so black and white, yet when YOU have an opinion, it's the only opinion. I stated my case. It's not cut and dry as you claim it to be.
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HereForTheBeer: I can go with that, though I will add that the last one looks like tone-deaf professional incompetence, while the one for the Postal-series game was just plain poor judgment.
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RWarehall: I guess you think Linko should have halted the GoG release
No, the release could go on as scheduled.

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RWarehall: and asked the developer to send him a new gif then, right?
Exactly yes.

IF the publisher sent that .gif to gOg - and gOg did not actually make it themselves - then they would have done well to reconsider and ask for some other promo material - there are hours and hours of other content from which to snag a quick 3-5 second .gif. The POSTAL folks could try to advertise elsewhere with that .gif, but it was really dumb for whomever at gOg to say, "Yeah, let's go with that!"

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Are you positive that the .gif was sent to gOg by the publisher, or is it an assumption of yours that gOg themselves didn't come up with this from within the game?

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RWarehall: This was a tweet promoting POSTAL 2: Paradise Lost. Two "gaming " magazines gave the game 0 on a 1 to 10 rating scale. Wonder why the game publishers might be pissing on games journalism? There are 100's of things people can choose to be offended by in that game if one "wants to be". But let's blame Linko, right? He should have overruled the game publisher, right?
First, this doesn't mean I don't think the .gif was a funny bit of satire. Sometimes noses need to be tweaked.

But it's not the fight of gOg. It's the fight of the developers of the game. gOg, by using that material, had chosen to make their twitter account the battleground for someone else's fight. And if they thought nothing bad was going to come from it, while at the same time relying on those in game journalism to help make positive stories about the company... at best that's just very naive and short-sighted.

You've said that it's not offensive. Well, it's not offensive to YOU. I'm pretty sure it offended the daylights out of some folks who take their game journalism jobs seriously. And those are the same people that gOg wants to have saying good things about their company on occasion, to hopefully give them any kind of positive mention at all in a Steam- and AAA-dominated marketplace.

They got a mention, that's for certain.

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Would I not be crazy to think I could place an ad for my company in a magazine, for instance, that bad-mouthed in a fairly vulgar way some competing company or other entity with which I was unhappy, without the magazine's advertising people saying, "Um, wait a sec. You need make some changes, because we're not going to attach our name to this."?

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The bit about game journalists... maybe they're creating a problem. The company should be smart enough not to drag themselves to that level and poke the bear. gOg are not here to make some commentary on journalism, or equal rights, or whatever issue du jour. They are here to sell games to dorks like me and you. I don't need their advertising feeds to take sides on the journalism issue, and I don't need it to link me to some gay / trans rights issue. Promote games and leave that side BS out of it.

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Just curious: did the publisher put out any kudos or support to gOg after the urination tweet?
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amok: if you are a good PR / CM you think about your organisation first and its image, he need to anticipate any fallout from any messages.
Problem with insane people is that you can not anticipate their reactions, so Linko, like any mentally normal person, could not have anticipated a "fallout" over some benign witty remark that only lasted a few minutes before being deleted.

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amok: it would have been perfectly fine to promote Postal 2 on twitter without using that gif at all.
perfectly true, but that does not justify the scandal breakout over such a minor thing, the political correctness gestapo is going too far and i think that there will be a backlash eventually.
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HereForTheBeer: snip
Whatever, clearly we are not going to agree. Being milktoast is crappy PR too. The fact that hindsight is 20/20 for you says a lot about your judgmentalism.

The POSTAL 2 tweet, it's frigging POSTAL 2! If you are getting offended about that, then you need to get a life, and "games journalists" have no excuse pretending not to know about the game.

The last tweet was up for just a couple minutes and responded to with an appropriate apology. At worst, Linko should have gotten a warning, But hey, "off with his head", right?
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amok: if you are a good PR / CM you think about your organisation first and its image, he need to anticipate any fallout from any messages.
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kaboro: Problem with insane people is that you can not anticipate their reactions, so Linko, like any mentally normal person, could not have anticipated a "fallout" over some benign witty remark that only lasted a few minutes before being deleted.

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amok: it would have been perfectly fine to promote Postal 2 on twitter without using that gif at all.
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kaboro: perfectly true, but that does not justify the scandal breakout over such a minor thing, the political correctness gestapo is going too far and i think that there will be a backlash eventually.
Extremism always results in backlash, but extremism in one form or another is the only option available at the ballot box these days, which shows that the problem isn't "the left" or "the right", but rather, is a systemic problem rooted in the electoral process.
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amok: yes
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RWarehall: It's truly ironic how you claim things aren't so black and white, yet when YOU have an opinion, it's the only opinion. I stated my case. It's not cut and dry as you claim it to be.
I can justify it by- "yes, if he does a good job"

Better? Linko's job was to maintain the public image of gOg on social media, not to placate RWS, there are other people at gOg with that role. off course he could have done many things, but part of his job was to vet the images tweeted. if you are saying he did not do so, then he did not do his job properly. For the rest, I suggest you read HereForTheBeer's post properly, he asks you a few good questions there.
I have a suggestion for future modding. Either promote/hire people who have no political affiliations, or make sure that their social media account postings are set to private. That way conflicts of interest or meme/joke/insult nonsense doesn't get taken way out of context, thereby leaving more ppl without jobs and the parent company with egg on its face.

Social media is a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Too many ppl on it who have their sense of humor surgically removed. Best not to agitate those who are shaking in anticipation of the next outrage opportunity.

And as an aside, I have no major social media accounts. That makes me a perfect candidate to mod this forum. Put me in the game, coach! I'm ready! XD
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Emob78: I have a suggestion for future modding. Either promote/hire people who have no political affiliations, or make sure that their social media account postings are set to private. That way conflicts of interest or meme/joke/insult nonsense doesn't get taken way out of context, thereby leaving more ppl without jobs and the parent company with egg on its face.

Social media is a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Too many ppl on it who have their sense of humor surgically removed. Best not to agitate those who are shaking in anticipation of the next outrage opportunity.

And as an aside, I have no major social media accounts. That makes me a perfect candidate to mod this forum. Put me in the game, coach! I'm ready! XD
Easier to find Sasquatch. lol
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Emob78: I have a suggestion for future modding. Either promote/hire people who have no political affiliations, or make sure that their social media account postings are set to private. That way conflicts of interest or meme/joke/insult nonsense doesn't get taken way out of context, thereby leaving more ppl without jobs and the parent company with egg on its face.

Social media is a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Too many ppl on it who have their sense of humor surgically removed. Best not to agitate those who are shaking in anticipation of the next outrage opportunity.

And as an aside, I have no major social media accounts. That makes me a perfect candidate to mod this forum. Put me in the game, coach! I'm ready! XD
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richlind33: Easier to find Sasquatch. lol
I'll vote Bigfoot 2020 if it means less pants get wet and ppl stop shadow boxing with word monsters.
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Emob78: Either promote/hire people who have no political affiliations, or make sure that their social media account postings are set to private.
A quick return to correct an apparent misconception. This whole mess had nothing to do with Linko's personal account (as far as I'm aware) but rather his management of the GOG corporate twitter account.
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Emob78: Either promote/hire people who have no political affiliations, or make sure that their social media account postings are set to private.
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SirPrimalform: A quick return to correct an apparent misconception. This whole mess had nothing to do with Linko's personal account (as far as I'm aware) but rather his management of the GOG corporate twitter account.
Doesn't matter. Memes, links, and retweets can all be taken out of context, especially if ppl are looking for bait material. Best to leave it blank and let folks make their own assumptions than give anyone ammo to throw into said dumpster fire.

Putting things in context, if ppl are gonna get that pissed about Linko's linkorama, I can only imagine what kind of fun they'd have with the musings of my mind.

Apples and oranges and whatnot.
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Emob78: Doesn't matter. Memes, links, and retweets can all be taken out of context, especially if ppl are looking for bait material. Best to leave it blank and let folks make their own assumptions than give anyone ammo to throw into said dumpster fire.

Putting things in context, if ppl are gonna get that pissed about Linko's linkorama, I can only imagine what kind of fun they'd have with the musings of my mind.

Apples and oranges and whatnot.
I just wanted to make the point that it all happened on the twitter account that it was his job to make public posts on. Leaving it blank or making it private wasn't really an option. Anyway, I didn't come back to actually discuss this, I just wanted to point out that it wasn't his personal account or anything.
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SirPrimalform: I just wanted to make the point that it all happened on the twitter account that it was his job to make public posts on. Leaving it blank or making it private wasn't really an option. Anyway, I didn't come back to actually discuss this, I just wanted to point out that it wasn't his personal account or anything.
Finny that...you didn't come back to discuss this but you make posts discussing this. Does this mean this reply will get "beeped"?

I stick by what I said.

First Linko was accused of constantly messing up. I proved that wasn't true. He wasn't here for PC Master race, he didn't run the CDPR Twitter account but people were throwing that on the fire.

Second, he made a completely non-offensive tweet promoting POSTAL 2's long overdue expansion which the outrage mob get upset over what was in the promotional gif. Would this have been any different if it featured a clip from the new voice actor for the expansion? If it displayed a cat silencer? Or any of the 100's of other outrageous things contained in the game? Of course not. It's POSTAL 2, the outrage mob was going to find a reason to complain no matter what it was. Not Linko's fault at all. It's the nature of the perpetually offended.

Third, while he shouldn't have hijacked that hashtag, it's not as if he was actually being transphobic in any way. Not once did he insult anyone in the two tweets he was responsible for. But hey, you want to call him terrible at his job. Who the heck are you to decide that especially for a position that is handling the forums, twitter, support and who knows how many other tasks juggling them all every day. I feel sorry for the guy. He got shafted.