It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
avatar
Elmofongo: Litirally whats the point of money when the whole human race is arrested, no one will be buying anything or going to events like movies and concerts etc. when they are all in jail. And think about it I think some of these corporate suits and politicians and celebraties are guilty of streaming copyrighted material aswell so they fucked themselves for passing this law. Cities and towns and settlements will start being empty because everyone pirated gangnam style.

Are these people so ignorant, narrow-minded, short-term thinking, less than human creatures not see how illogical this bill is?!
But prisoners are a cheap work force you can exploit! They have nothing else to do and you can literally pay them cents per hour. Not even China can compete with that!
avatar
Elmofongo: Litirally whats the point of money when the whole human race is arrested, no one will be buying anything or going to events like movies and concerts etc. when they are all in jail. And think about it I think some of these corporate suits and politicians and celebraties are guilty of streaming copyrighted material aswell so they fucked themselves for passing this law. Cities and towns and settlements will start being empty because everyone pirated gangnam style.

Are these people so ignorant, narrow-minded, short-term thinking, less than human creatures not see how illogical this bill is?!
avatar
Fesin: But prisoners are a cheap work force you can exploit! They have nothing else to do and you can literally pay them cents per hour. Not even China can compete with that!
But than people will rebel and world war 3 will start, hard to believe World War 3 will be caused by people pirating movies and music rather than a more important reason.
avatar
Elmofongo: But than people will rebel and world war 3 will start, hard to believe World War 3 will be caused by people pirating movies and music rather than a more important reason.
I don't know about the US, but here in Austria, you could kill each first-born child and people wouldn't rebel.
avatar
Fesin: I don't know about the US, but here in Austria, you could kill each first-born child and people wouldn't rebel.
Oh, it's pretty much the same in Poland. People would rebel only if govt. blocked porn.
avatar
Darvond: That's not a buzzword, that's an actual concern related to the issue of governance and corporate marriage.
avatar
Elmofongo: Are these people so ignorant, narrow-minded, short-term thinking, less than human creatures not see how illogical this bill is?!
Yes.

These are the same groups of people who want to elect an invisible pink unicorn, for example.
avatar
Elmofongo: Litirally whats the point of money when the whole human race is arrested, no one will be buying anything or going to events like movies and concerts etc. when they are all in jail. And think about it I think some of these corporate suits and politicians and celebraties are guilty of streaming copyrighted material aswell so they fucked themselves for passing this law. Cities and towns and settlements will start being empty because everyone pirated gangnam style.

Are these people so ignorant, narrow-minded, short-term thinking, less than human creatures not see how illogical this bill is?!
avatar
Fesin: But prisoners are a cheap work force you can exploit! They have nothing else to do and you can literally pay them cents per hour. Not even China can compete with that!
Woah, what are you thinking? Prisoners in the USA have better conditions than most of us actually living! They're expensive to maintain!
Post edited August 25, 2013 by Darvond
avatar
Elmofongo: Are these people so ignorant, narrow-minded, short-term thinking, less than human creatures not see how illogical this bill is?!
avatar
Darvond: Yes.

These are the same groups of people who want to elect an invisible pink unicorn, for example.
???
Speaking from within the belly of the whale, we do not have a two-party system in America. Due to too many factors (campaign finance, unregulated capitalistism, egregious lawmaking, toothless tort reform, partisan media), all the highest offices are occupied by people beholden to corporations above and beyond any other concern. There is no representation of the common people, and no possibility of reform under the current system. All the two parties represent are different flavours of social issues and a sliding factor of the propensity to go to war.

The same people (Alan Greenspan, Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner) have been making economic policy regardless of who is in office for ages. The banks get whatever laws they want passed, and bailouts whenever their own mistakes come back to bite them. Environmental policies are eviscerated, prison workforces are made available at slave wages, medical costs are allowed to remain arbitrary, and copyrights are extended in perpetuity, all at the behest of those who are truly represented by the American government.

So no one should be surprised that when a powerful business lobby shows its ass, Washington's first instinct is to pucker their lips.
avatar
IAmSinistar: Speaking from within the belly of the whale, we do not have a two-party system in America. Due to too many factors (campaign finance, unregulated capitalistism, egregious lawmaking, toothless tort reform, partisan media), all the highest offices are occupied by people beholden to corporations above and beyond any other concern. There is no representation of the common people, and no possibility of reform under the current system. All the two parties represent are different flavours of social issues and a sliding factor of the propensity to go to war.

The same people (Alan Greenspan, Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner) have been making economic policy regardless of who is in office for ages. The banks get whatever laws they want passed, and bailouts whenever their own mistakes come back to bite them. Environmental policies are eviscerated, prison workforces are made available at slave wages, medical costs are allowed to remain arbitrary, and copyrights are extended in perpetuity, all at the behest of those who are truly represented by the American government.

So no one should be surprised that when a powerful business lobby shows its ass, Washington's first instinct is to pucker their lips.
The only hope I have is once everyone dies, the new generation of people will rectify these peoples errors.
avatar
Darvond: This is where I mumble buzzwords like, 'Division of regency', 'Federal Council', 'death to Congress', and 'Why can't the United Kingdom just take us back?'
Don't look to us, lad. We're heading your way on a runaway train, with increasing speed, downhill, and sharp bends all along the route.

We've been a 1-party state for the better part of at least 30 years, if not longer.
None of the "alternatives" are electable, and even if they were, UKIP for example, would happily jump on board with the rest of the scum in Westminster. Or become worse.
Post edited August 25, 2013 by Lone3wolf
avatar
Elmofongo: The only hope I have is once everyone dies, the new generation of people will rectify these peoples errors.
Maybe if everyone within the system died at once and a whole generation took on the challenge afresh. Right now it seems that the system is self-renewing, absorbing new converts from the up-and-coming to replace the faithful that die off.

These kinds of self-perpetuating cycles of corruption can break down eventually from within, and that will probably happen in America as we continue to ignore our infrastructure. Right now about the only thing holding the nation together is the fact that folks in the 1940s and 1950s built things to last. Once we're done coasting on their momentum, it'll be chaos. That's assuming an external factor doesn't trigger it first, which is the other way these cycles break. It's all very precarious at the moment, so it wouldn't take much.
avatar
Darvond: This is where I mumble buzzwords like, 'Division of regency', 'Federal Council', 'death to Congress', and 'Why can't the United Kingdom just take us back?'
avatar
Lone3wolf: Don't look to us, lad. We're heading your way on a runaway train, with increasing speed, downhill, and sharp bends all along the route.

We've been a 1-party state for the better part of at least 30 years, if not longer.
None of the "alternatives" are electable, and even if they were, UKIP for example, would happily jump on board with the rest of the scum in Westminster. Or become worse.
So do I look to Scandinavia instead? Because as each day passes, that area becomes loads more tempting.
avatar
Crosmando: That's the point, I think. There's probably a term for it, "political entrapment strategy" or something. But I don't think it's a mistake that for the longest part the Vietnam War was carried out by a (liberal) Democratic President, it was impossible for Americans to come out against the war in the "traditional" way, by voting someone else into office, because the alternate (the Republicans) were even worse, so they were trapped.

It's this constant pushing of the envelope because they know there's no viable opposition (at least in the "mainstream" 2-party system).
avatar
Fesin: Well, we've got 5-6 parties in our parliament and it's not really much better. Just shows how you can fuck up every political system (though the reasons are different, the effect is the same: two major parties that are essentially the same rule everything with an iron fist).
We've got six parties in government alone, with two more (and a few dissenters from government parties) in opposition. The result is that nothing much gets done at all, apart from whatever lobby groups, the civil service or the EU want. It's pathetic.
avatar
Lone3wolf: Don't look to us, lad. We're heading your way on a runaway train, with increasing speed, downhill, and sharp bends all along the route.

We've been a 1-party state for the better part of at least 30 years, if not longer.
None of the "alternatives" are electable, and even if they were, UKIP for example, would happily jump on board with the rest of the scum in Westminster. Or become worse.
avatar
Darvond: So do I look to Scandinavia instead? Because as each day passes, that area becomes loads more tempting.
Short of the idiots waking up and mounting a full-blown, ground-up revolution, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the days of that Cromwell arsehole, I suppose in the short-term, they appear to be slightly more sane than the rest of us.....I won't be holding my breath they'll remain that way though...
There's some nasty rumours floating around about how quick they'd turn Assange over to the Yanks if they got their hands on him... :\
avatar
Fesin: I don't know about the US, but here in Austria, you could kill each first-born child and people wouldn't rebel.
avatar
keeveek: Oh, it's pretty much the same in Poland. People would rebel only if govt. blocked porn.
I'd actually trust the Polish to be defiant till the end. History shows a good track record. Maybe you should think higher about your people... then again, I don't live there so I guess you know better :)
The idea of prosecuting people for this kind of thing sounds crazy to me. Thank God here in Brazil the Supreme Court pretty much put a stop to this stuff. Still, I watch plenty of international content, so I'd hate it if this type of bill passed anywhere.