Europe handles drugs differently than the US. From what I understand some parts of Europe where there's a heroine problem will have blue lights in the public restrooms to make it difficult to find a vein. I guess the idea is to keep whatever drug use their is public.

To an extent, it does seem to work as the fatal overdoses are down. However, I'm not really sure that having a permissive drug policy really solves any problems. Sure, it does solve the problem of people going to prison over it, however, most of the banned drugs are quite nasty.

What the heck? SOPA! -__-

Best post yet.

The gov't likes to make people vulnerable. That way, they don't have to get you for what they want to get you for. They get you for something else.

It sounds like fairy-tale land, but it happens in real life. Even in America today.

We used to have a saying when we drove by a car that is stopped by a cop in the South. "Oh man. They were caught with a DWB." DWB = Driving While Black. And it's a crime in some communities. Not officially. But give the cop a few minutes and he'll find something wrong with your car, your attitude or your speed. And if he can't, he can still hold you for a day with no questions asked.

It happens. For real.

Stopping legislation like this of utmost importance. Anything that makes the masses fear their government is bad. Vote yes for the things that make the government fear the people. (but not things like forced plastic surgery to get stainless steel horns implanted)

They're so very afraid to drop the SOPA, aren't they?

I think Hoover is the worst, but Obama hasn't been that good either.

Depends on what you mean by "nasty". Most of the banned drugs are actually less dangerous than alcohol, so there you go.

Let's just say this is a complicated issue. By virtue of the number of smokers and drinkers out there, those two probably trump the amount of damage that all the illegal drugs do combined. However, they're not as addictive as some of the newer illegal drugs.

The difficulties with removing tobacco from the population lead me to be somewhat concerned about pot being legalized as the full effects of the current generation of pot plants aren't as well understood as the pot plants from when the original prohibition was begun. The stuff today is substantially stronger, and if you don't realize it, you can wind up substantially more stoned than you expected. At least with alcohol there's a label that indicates how much is in a beverage, typically.

However, neither alcohol nor tobacco are associated with the sort of declines that things like meth, heroine and crack are. Nor are they as likely to make somebody difficult to bring under control like speed or cocaine can.

If you legalize and commercialize some of the more harmless drugs like cannabis, LSD, ecstacy and magic mushrooms, information and labels will of course follow naturally.

Also, the potential harm from most illegal drugs, like violence, poisoning, economic ruin, or being imprisoned, stems from them being illegal, not from the drugs themselves.

I'm not suggesting that illegal drugs are harmless, but alcohol - contrary to conventional belief - is actually one of the most (if not the most) dangerous and harmful drug in existence, far more dangerous than the drugs I mentioned above.

No offense, but if you think LSD is "more harmless", then you really have nothing relevant to say on the issue .


And alcohol in and of itself is not harmful at all, in fact there are studies that show regular alcohol consumption is very healthy. In fact, being an alcoholic is actually healthier than abstaining from drinking altogether :


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html

No offense taken.

It depends on what kind of harm we are talking about. But if you take into consideration all the different varieties of harms of alcohol (violence, damage to bodily organs, mental impairment etc.) compared with those of LSD, the latter is far less harmful. LSD used carelessly can mess with your mind, but can't kill you. LSD and other hallucinogens can be dangerous, but can also be highly beneficial for some individuals.

No dude, alcohol only harms you if you drink too much, for a long time. But LSD harms you permanently, even if you take it for a short while. So making any comparisons would be foolish .

[citation needed]

Only if you think science is foolish:

LSD and Other Psychedelics Not Linked With Mental Health Problems, Analysis Suggests:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130819185302.htm

Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin':
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210

Here's a famous Lancet study comparing the relative harms of different drugs:
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/fulltext#article_upsell

Hate to break it to you, but ecstasy is most definitely not harmless.

"In addition to flashbacks, the use of LSD may irreparably damage the brain and produce a permanent psychotic state, or psychosis. Psychosis is defined as a severe mental disorder in which the individual loses contact with reality."


http://deep6inc.com/previewlsd11.html