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monkeydelarge: I'm not you. When I say I'm not selling junk, it means nobody sees my items as junk. I'm not selling baseball cards or something like that or something only a fan would be interested in..
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fartheststar: I'm selling PA system. It has uses. Non-junk. No calls and was listed for over 3 months.
Yeah, it's not junk to the people who need it but how many people need a PA system? What I'm selling is the type of stuff that is just as needed or desired as Apple Ipads, for example. Stuff with a popular name. Stuff that people have seen on TV. Stuff that people know about. The kind of stuff people say they want when you go to the wanted section of craigslist. The kind of stuff, criminals always steal because they know what sells. I don't bother trying to sell things like PA systems because such things would take forever to sell unless you are lucky.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: I'm not you. When I say I'm not selling junk, it means nobody sees my items as junk. I'm not selling baseball cards or something like that or something only a fan would be interested in..
Well then you are selling junk if it's not something collectable. You'd be better off with selling baseball cards.
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monkeydelarge: I'm not you. When I say I'm not selling junk, it means nobody sees my items as junk. I'm not selling baseball cards or something like that or something only a fan would be interested in..
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Alfie3000: Well then you are selling junk if it's not something collectable. You'd be better off with selling baseball cards.
IT'S NOT JUNK.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah, it's not junk to the people who need it but how many people need a PA system?
Lots of people. I've sold lots of musical equipment including power amps, PA speakers, guitar amps, speakers, guitars, mixers - but for some reason certain pieces just have no interest whatsoever.

a suggestion - in your replies you might see if your communication with potential buyers is running them off. Even if I'm insulted by the offers of some folks I always start my email off by saying "Thanks for your interest, but I'm going to see if I can get $X for it. Thanks for your question." Sometimes they are interested in the item and are just opening negotiating. I tend to just list stuff as "FIRM" if I really am firm on price and won't negotiate from it. I check ebay to see about what it goes for there, and list it at a discount on craigslist to save on the trouble and fees. From what I've seen craigslist requires a sizeable discount vs. what stuff would sell for on ebay. If it'll easily sell on ebay (sounds like your items might easily sell on ebay since they're so popular) you might just check on listing there to have better luck.

good luck with things.
Hmm... are you selling vibrators/dildos? or maybe blow up dolls? because once used those things go for a lot less than what you bought them for.
Reasons for cheap behavior:

Amazon
Ebay
Craig's List
Goodwill stores at least in my area are pretty common, same for consignment shops and things are extremely cheap


China

TV shows such as pickers, storage shows, and pawn shop shows have become really popular

unemployment
inflation and grocery prices going up
employers cutting wages
obamacare =)


the list can go on and on....too be honest. Usually with selling my old stuff i just let it go for whatever as otherwise i start hoarding.

Also you have no clue what the buyer's situation is like so making blanket statements about cheapness is ridiculous.

And yes what you are selling matters...maybe you are the local crack dealer=) Although that market is still pretty strong.
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fartheststar: I'm selling PA system. It has uses. Non-junk. No calls and was listed for over 3 months.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah, it's not junk to the people who need it but how many people need a PA system? What I'm selling is the type of stuff that is just as needed or desired as Apple Ipads, for example. Stuff with a popular name. Stuff that people have seen on TV. Stuff that people know about. The kind of stuff people say they want when you go to the wanted section of craigslist. The kind of stuff, criminals always steal because they know what sells. I don't bother trying to sell things like PA systems because such things would take forever to sell unless you are lucky.
The fact you refuse to say what it is but "IT IS NOT JUNK" makes me wonder....also Apple is overpriced to begin with, so bad use of an example. Although if it was an apple product they are easy to move.

Basically what an item goes for on ebay or used on amazon is the easiest price range.
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WBGhiro: Hmm... are you selling vibrators/dildos? or maybe blow up dolls? because once used those things go for a lot less than what you bought them for.
lol, i mean the way he refuses to give his personal examples would make me almost believe this....viagra sells pretty well in the active elderly community also as an investment opportunity.
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misfire200: Reasons for cheap behavior:

Amazon
Ebay
Craig's List
Goodwill stores at least in my area are pretty common, same for consignment shops and things are extremely cheap

China

TV shows such as pickers, storage shows, and pawn shop shows have become really popular

unemployment
inflation and grocery prices going up
employers cutting wages
obamacare =)

the list can go on and on....too be honest. Usually with selling my old stuff i just let it go for whatever as otherwise i start hoarding.

Also you have no clue what the buyer's situation is like so making blanket statements about cheapness is ridiculous.

And yes what you are selling matters...maybe you are the local crack dealer=) Although that market is still pretty strong.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah, it's not junk to the people who need it but how many people need a PA system? What I'm selling is the type of stuff that is just as needed or desired as Apple Ipads, for example. Stuff with a popular name. Stuff that people have seen on TV. Stuff that people know about. The kind of stuff people say they want when you go to the wanted section of craigslist. The kind of stuff, criminals always steal because they know what sells. I don't bother trying to sell things like PA systems because such things would take forever to sell unless you are lucky.
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misfire200: The fact you refuse to say what it is but "IT IS NOT JUNK" makes me wonder....also Apple is overpriced to begin with, so bad use of an example. Although if it was an apple product they are easy to move.

Basically what an item goes for on ebay or used on amazon is the easiest price range.
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WBGhiro: Hmm... are you selling vibrators/dildos? or maybe blow up dolls? because once used those things go for a lot less than what you bought them for.
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misfire200: lol, i mean the way he refuses to give his personal examples would make me almost believe this....viagra sells pretty well in the active elderly community also as an investment opportunity.
Another reason I don't list all the items I'm selling with details here is it seems there are a few passive aggressive people here who hate me here for being too abrasive. No, I'm not selling giant purple dildos and used blow up dolls etc. I don't want the few people here who hate me to find my advertisements online and then troll the shit out of me. :) I would not find it very amusing to go some place with the item I'm selling and wait for a buyer that doesn't exist., then go home. Then go through the same shit, the next day. :) I am many things but I am not stupid. Yes, people LOVE Apple stuff.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: What I'm selling is the type of stuff that is just as needed or desired as Apple Ipads, for example. Stuff with a popular name. Stuff that people have seen on TV. Stuff that people know about.
Ipad is junk if its second hand. It's value is massively reduced because you have no guarantee on it if it works or for how long. Went to an auction and an Ipad sold for just over $100 but you have no idea if that's a steal or a $100 paperweight. Same with name brand stuff. There are racks of designer clothes for a few dollars at any charity shop, and none of it was worth the original price tag to begin with.

So unless you give us more details about the items then I'm guessing it's "junk" and people won't pay your price because they don't want the risk.
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monkeydelarge: What I'm selling is the type of stuff that is just as needed or desired as Apple Ipads, for example. Stuff with a popular name. Stuff that people have seen on TV. Stuff that people know about.
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Alfie3000: Ipad is junk if its second hand. It's value is massively reduced because you have no guarantee on it if it works or for how long. Went to an auction and an Ipad sold for just over $100 but you have no idea if that's a steal or a $100 paperweight. Same with name brand stuff. There are racks of designer clothes for a few dollars at any charity shop, and none of it was worth the original price tag to begin with.

So unless you give us more details about the items then I'm guessing it's "junk" and people won't pay your price because they don't want the risk.
I agree with you, that a used Ipad could be junk. Used items are a gamble for people. A used Ipad is not junk if there is nothing wrong with it and was well taken care of and not too old but people know there is a good chance that a used Ipad is junk. While writing my first post, I wasn't thinking of people's perception of USED vs NEW and that most items today are made very cheaply so they don't last long.
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monkeydelarge: I'm not against haggling. I'm against people who are insanely cheap. When an item is overpriced or fair priced, then of course, people should haggle. BUT NOT WHEN SOMETHING IS 80% OFF. People shouldn't expect shit for almost free. This kind of entitlement is destroying the world. Imagine, Steam is selling a good game for 80% off. What kind of person would I be, if I contacted Steam and asked for 90% off instead?
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anjohl: 80% off of what? Original retail price? If so, irrelevant. 80% off your perceived value of the item? Again, irrelevant. 80% off the market trend on the item? Odd.
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monkeydelarge: Insanely cheap people want more than a deal...
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anjohl: Agreed. I am about as cheap as they come, and do you know what that has done? it has transformed me from a wasteful consumer to a responsible, observant, and fanatical appreciator of money. I used to disrespect my money, giving it to people who hadn't earned it, for stuff I didn't want, let alone need. Now I don't disrespect money. Now I love it. I love my money, but I love YOUR money even more.

Insanely cheap people want more than a deal for sure, they want a deal AND a nice margin.
Then you are bad for the economy so you are one of many, destroying the world we live in. The world needs people who spend and spend. This world is a machine and it's fuel is consumers who spend and spend. People need to make money. You make it hard for people to make money. You think you are doing what is good for you. No because what is good for the world is good for you. We are all connected. If everyone else falls, eventually you will fall too. Do you realize, we are in the worst depression ever? One that is getting worse because people aren't spending enough money. When people stop wasting money, it means tons of jobs gone and small businesses dead. Then more people in this world have no more money to spend and then that is less money others can make etc. Of course, I don't expect you to believe I'm a genius or economy expert so just google saving money is bad for the economy.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: I agree with you. Used items are a gamble for people. A used Ipad is not junk if there is nothing wrong with it and was well taken care of and not too old but people know there is a good chance that a used Ipad is junk. While writing my first post, I wasn't thinking of people's perception of USED vs NEW and that most items today are made very cheaply so they don't last long.
It annoys me too how stuff is worth so little. Better off burning it all and claiming on insurance than selling it :P I stopped going to auctions because most the stuff was either truly junk (rusty tools) or bidding on any electrical or mechanical stuff was akin to gambling. Oh and the auctioneers were complete arseholes.
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monkeydelarge: I agree with you. Used items are a gamble for people. A used Ipad is not junk if there is nothing wrong with it and was well taken care of and not too old but people know there is a good chance that a used Ipad is junk. While writing my first post, I wasn't thinking of people's perception of USED vs NEW and that most items today are made very cheaply so they don't last long.
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Alfie3000: It annoys me too how stuff is worth so little. Better off burning it all and claiming on insurance than selling it :P I stopped going to auctions because most the stuff was either truly junk (rusty tools) or bidding on any electrical or mechanical stuff was akin to gambling. Oh and the auctioneers were complete arseholes.
It annoys me that used items are seen as junk even though my used items aren't junk because I take care of my stuff. So because of the asshole who treats his stuff like shit and then sells something with a problem or something that breaks a week later, all sellers selling used items have to suffer.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: Then you are bad for the economy. The world needs people who spend and spend. This world is a machine and it's fuel is consumers who spend and spend. People need to make money. You make it hard for people to make money. You think you are doing what is good for you. No because what is good for the world is good for you. We are all connected. If everyone else falls, eventually you will fall too. Do you realize, we are in the worst depression ever? One that is getting worse because people aren't spending enough money. When people stop wasting money, it means tons of jobs gone and small businesses dead. Then more people in this world have no more money to spend and then that is less money others can make etc. Of course, I don't expect you to believe I'm a genius or economy expert so just google saving money is bad for the economy.
As with everything this forces unknown solutions or theories of solution to rise up in the event of desperation. Besides, you seem to lack proportional thinking. How could one person affect macroeconomics by stop being cheap? It requires a large amount of people to do that. It's sort of like voting in politics, 1 vote means nothing compared to a larger majority. It's just that democracy is holy and has immunity to scrutiny because it's for the people and anyone who says otherwise is dirty and pro-totalitarian authority.
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monkeydelarge: Then you are bad for the economy. The world needs people who spend and spend. This world is a machine and it's fuel is consumers who spend and spend. People need to make money. You make it hard for people to make money. You think you are doing what is good for you. No because what is good for the world is good for you. We are all connected. If everyone else falls, eventually you will fall too. Do you realize, we are in the worst depression ever? One that is getting worse because people aren't spending enough money. When people stop wasting money, it means tons of jobs gone and small businesses dead. Then more people in this world have no more money to spend and then that is less money others can make etc. Of course, I don't expect you to believe I'm a genius or economy expert so just google saving money is bad for the economy.
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Nirth: As with everything this forces unknown solutions or theories of solution to rise up in the event of desperation. Besides, you seem to lack proportional thinking. How could one person affect macroeconomics by stop being cheap? It requires a large amount of people to do that. It's sort of like voting in politics, 1 vote means nothing compared to a larger majority. It's just that democracy is holy and has immunity to scrutiny because it's for the people and anyone who says otherwise is dirty and pro-totalitarian authority.
Did I say 1 person not being cheap will make a difference? NO. So you are either trolling me, which wouldn't surprise me or made the mistake of jumping to a bullshit conclusion(I lack proportional thinking) which is very stupid of you. I also find it very insulting that you would jump to such a conclusion without evidence. If I'm talking and laughing with 1 person, does it seem I only have 1 friend too?
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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Piranjade: I have to admit that I made similar experiences on flea markets for children's toys and clothes. I buy stuff and I used to sell stuff also but I stopped doing that.
For about a year now the behaviour of the buyers slightly changed. People don't seem to be willing to pay a reasonable price, only want to pay about € 0,50 - € 1 per item and then want something free on top. Or they just ask for free stuff right away.
It's strange and I really wonder what has changed. I like flea markets and I love haggling and I know how things work there and I have been a happy customer and a successful vendor but the mood has changed and not in a good way. I can of course only speak for the flea markets I frequent, so I don't have a very big sample to go by but for these things really have gotten different.
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monkeydelarge: If you are talking about items that are new then these tough times have turned a lot of people into insanely cheap entitled selfish people who fail to see the big picture. If we are talking about used items, tburger said it best.

"Consumer goods become cheaper and less durable in time. From many years people are taught that it’s not worth to buy second-hand items (or repair broken ones) – that what they should do – is just buy new item. That’s why value of second-hand items devaluates."
I get that, but it seems to me that in the past people were able to distinguish between good quality child clothing (that will last another three children and still look great) and low quality child clothing (that will last just one more child and already doesn't look so good).
They treat it as if it's ALL only worth € 0.50 or € 1 and that irritates me. That don't differentiate anymore. It's like they stopped looking and thinking at what they are buying there and don't realise that not everything is low quality.