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I've been waiting for Witcher 2 like starved, but if my electronic copy contains restrictions, I'm afraid I just won't purchase it. (and now he stops acting like a child)
The whole point of downloading games (legally), rather than buying physical copies is to enjoy hassle free trade. (gosh, didn't I say something everyone alrdy don't know)
If GoG is being bullied into this, we customers, deserve the right to know. (I stand by this)
We want to know, so that we can direct our outrage in the right direction.

It just feels like all the forces of old and evil in this world raised together against Witcher 2...

p.s.
I'll prolly still buy it from here, but that unofficial patch better pop up 5 min after the release and it better not require knowledge of several programming languages to apply :P
Yeah, I bet that threatened you. :]
Post edited May 07, 2011 by swordsandroses
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swordsandroses: I've been waiting for Witcher 2 like starved, but if my electronic copy contains restrictions, I'm afraid I just won't purchase it. (and now he stops acting like a child)
The whole point of downloading games (legally), rather than buying physical copies is to enjoy hassle free trade. (gosh, didn't I say something everyone alrdy don't know)
If GoG is being bullied into this, we customers, deserve the right to know. (I stand by this)
We want to know, so that we can direct our outrage in the right direction.

It just feels like all the forces of old and evil in this world raised together against Witcher 2...

p.s.
I'll prolly still buy it from here, but that unofficial patch better pop up 5 min after the release and it better not require knowledge of several programming languages to apply :P
Yeah, I bet that threatened you. :]
I think you guys who want this so called "unofficial patch" aren't seeing what it is going to cause.

Things like this will do two things to your game -

1. Most likely make all pre order DLC conflict with your new version after using the unofficial patch

2. Make it so that all official patches in the future will not be compatible, so you will have to completely uninstall the unofficial patch (or the entire game if the unofficial patch does not come with an uninstaller) and THEN use the official patch and THEN wait for a NEW unofficial patch then use that again to get the content back. You can imagine how corrupted your save files will be after that.

Your unofficial patch isn't going to be the godsend you guys are hoping for, sadly.
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TheEnigmaticT: I was unaware that piracy was ever "justified". It can be, perhaps, "rationalized", but that's rather different.
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ddmuse: Yet it's okay for GOG to rationalize breaking with its stated principles?

Anyway, I don't understand why GOG can't offer the uncensored version for download to Australian (and NZ) customers while CDPR's physical distributor offers the censored disc version for sale in Australia. Appealing to an "unfair advantage" doesn't make sense; how is censored versus uncensored any more of an advantage than DRM versus DRM-free?
My guess is, it would undermine the publisher and cause a great deal of legal issues for CD Projekt and GOG to deal with. Online or retail, they are still bound to agreements that they have already broken, and are having to work to correct now.

This is speculation, but I imagine NZ is receiving the censored version because it is the same publisher for both regions, and they only want to deal with one copy. If that is the case, I feel the concerns and questions should be more directed at Namco Bandai. Get them to adjust their policy, and I would imagine GOG would be free to adjust things as well.

It sucks, I just feel that more attention needs to be directed at Namco Bandai who is publishing the game for the region than GOG alone.
Why yes, I must say that the Kiwis over here are much more mature and therefor able to handle adult content. As for Aussie, I'm surprised that they even trust them with Fisher Price toys.

Kidding

I bought Witcher Enanced hard copy here in NZ from an EB Games. It is a "Best of" version which I'm pretty sure is imported over here from Aussie because that is where we get most of our entertainment goods delivered from.

However, I never once considered that it may be edited for content but at the same time, I don't mind. Sex, violence, profanity and drug reference don't make games any better or worse for me so unless they ripped out an entire quest or two, bleeped words or cut scenes won't ruin the experience any for me.
Post edited May 07, 2011 by carnival73
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carnival73: Why yes, I must say that the Kiwis over here are much more mature and therefor able to handle adult content. As for Aussie, I'm surprised that they even trust them with Fisher Price toys.

Kidding

I bought Witcher Enanced hard copy here in NZ from an EB Games. It is a "Best of" version which I'm pretty sure is imported over here from Aussie because that is where we get most of our entertainment goods delivered from.

However, I never once considered that it may be edited for content but at the same time, I don't mind. Sex, violence, profanity and drug reference don't make games any better or worse for me so unless they ripped out an entire quest or two, bleeped words or cut scenes won't ruin the experience any for me.
Just FYI, The first Witcher 1 was completely uncensored in Australia, swears, violence, sex cards and all.
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swordsandroses: I've been waiting for Witcher 2 like starved, but if my electronic copy contains restrictions, I'm afraid I just won't purchase it. (and now he stops acting like a child)
The whole point of downloading games (legally), rather than buying physical copies is to enjoy hassle free trade. (gosh, didn't I say something everyone alrdy don't know)
If GoG is being bullied into this, we customers, deserve the right to know. (I stand by this)
We want to know, so that we can direct our outrage in the right direction.

It just feels like all the forces of old and evil in this world raised together against Witcher 2...

p.s.
I'll prolly still buy it from here, but that unofficial patch better pop up 5 min after the release and it better not require knowledge of several programming languages to apply :P
Yeah, I bet that threatened you. :]
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Switch296: I think you guys who want this so called "unofficial patch" aren't seeing what it is going to cause.

Things like this will do two things to your game -

1. Most likely make all pre order DLC conflict with your new version after using the unofficial patch

2. Make it so that all official patches in the future will not be compatible, so you will have to completely uninstall the unofficial patch (or the entire game if the unofficial patch does not come with an uninstaller) and THEN use the official patch and THEN wait for a NEW unofficial patch then use that again to get the content back. You can imagine how corrupted your save files will be after that.

Your unofficial patch isn't going to be the godsend you guys are hoping for, sadly.
If all they do is unblock the content, I hardly see how that could cause conflict with other patches.
This is definitely a bad thing and at first it seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but then I realised that pretty much every single Japanese game that's even been released in the UK was localised and, if applicable, censored first in America. We've had this crap for decades. There are some exceptions, like how all European countries got a censored version of No More Heroes (blood = coins) whereas America got a non-censored version (blood = incredibly pixellated red clouds) but they are in a microscopically small minority.

All those old JRPGs where everyone in the pub is drinking milk, where religious terms (Satan, Angel etc) were changed for something else (Redman and Wingboy, probably) and crucifixes or pentagrams were removed... Those are all changes that wouldn't be made by a British ratings board and yet we got the Americanised version all the same. Then again, maybe Australia and NZ got the same Americanised versions too?
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StingingVelvet: Man, I'm starting to think the whole Witcher 2 thing is tainting GOG a bit. Regional pricing, regional versions, "not DRM" patch client, etc. etc.. A lot of, in my opinion, anti-GOG stuff going on at GOG because of this game.
I agree. If GOG can't offer a release of The Witcher 2 that is in line with the principles the whole site is based on, then they really should not sell it here.
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Switch296: I think you guys who want this so called "unofficial patch" aren't seeing what it is going to cause.

Things like this will do two things to your game -

1. Most likely make all pre order DLC conflict with your new version after using the unofficial patch

2. Make it so that all official patches in the future will not be compatible, so you will have to completely uninstall the unofficial patch (or the entire game if the unofficial patch does not come with an uninstaller) and THEN use the official patch and THEN wait for a NEW unofficial patch then use that again to get the content back. You can imagine how corrupted your save files will be after that.

Your unofficial patch isn't going to be the godsend you guys are hoping for, sadly.
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Fuzzyfireball: If all they do is unblock the content, I hardly see how that could cause conflict with other patches.
They don't just "block" content when they censor a game, they remove it completely. It would have to be added in over whatever new files they have put there in it's place by an extremely skilled modder/programmer who understands the engine and coding he is working with. He would also have to make it EXACTLY the same as the international version or there would be compatibility issues out the waz-oo.

Did I mention this is a completely new engine that game modders/programmers have never used before besides the developers at CDPR? And don't have the small minded idea that CDPR will somehow "leak" an unofficial patch because if they were stupid enough to do that they would be sued for every dollar and cent they own once it was tracked back to them, it isn't worth the risk for them.

It will take a huge amount of effort on somebody's part.
Post edited May 07, 2011 by Switch296
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Switch296: [...]
Actually, all that they do in this case, is to remove / change a flag in quest dialog. Which is quite easy to rectify.
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Switch296: [...]
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Thiev: Actually, all that they do in this case, is to remove / change a flag in quest dialog. Which is quite easy to rectify.
I doubt it. They removed an entire sex cut scene, they aren't going to leave that just sitting in the game folder unless they want to get sued.

We have no idea how this engine works or how complicated it may be so yeah, but having heavily modded games like Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout 3 & NV/Thief/Crysis, it's never simple. I know every engine is different though but yeah, I don't see this so called unofficial patch (If it even ever comes out, someone is going to have dedicated a lot of time to it) being as perfect as everyone is dreaming it will be.
Post edited May 07, 2011 by Switch296
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StingingVelvet: Man, I'm starting to think the whole Witcher 2 thing is tainting GOG a bit. Regional pricing, regional versions, "not DRM" patch client, etc. etc.. A lot of, in my opinion, anti-GOG stuff going on at GOG because of this game.
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Zeewolf: I agree. If GOG can't offer a release of The Witcher 2 that is in line with the principles the whole site is based on, then they really should not sell it here.
I think the main principle at work here is "we get more money from GOG purchases." Which is fine, they deserve more money, but maybe selling it on the official Witcher website would be more the way to go.

Too late now though.
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Zeewolf: I agree. If GOG can't offer a release of The Witcher 2 that is in line with the principles the whole site is based on, then they really should not sell it here.
So you're saying that because CDPRED realized just few days ago that they have to remove one stupid sex scene from every version sold in AU & NZ, gog.com should drop all their preorders worldwide and block tens or hundreds of thousand of people all over the world from buying this game drm-free? I'm sorry but how that would help anyone?
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d2t: So you're saying that because CDPRED realized just few days ago that they have to remove one stupid sex scene from every version sold in AU & NZ, gog.com should drop all their preorders worldwide and block tens or hundreds of thousand of people all over the world from buying this game drm-free? I'm sorry but how that would help anyone?
If you read the text I said I agreed with, you'd know that this is not the only area where the release of The Witcher 2 doesn't fit the GOG-principles. And no, I don't think they should do that now. It's too late.

If anything, this situation shows those who wants GOG to move into new games (Good New Games) that it would never work. When CD Projekt can't do a proper GOG release of their own game, there's no way they'd ever be able to convince anyone else to go for it.
Well I wouldn't trust them to release new games in line with their stated principles after this mess. Its a shame, I would have preferred to give my money straight to cdprojekt for a complete version of the game but it seems they do not want that to happen.