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We actually got the same version as Japan, the blood was America only. There was some speculation that the blood was added to increase appeal in the US.

Also, a lot of the time the stuff you mention in old JRPGs was self censorship. Nintendo of America at least (don't know about Sega) had a policy that no games on their consoles could have any references to religion, alcohol, smoking, etc. The ratings board (if it even existed back then) never even saw any of those things. It is annoying that we got all those changes, but it's quite likely that NoE might have had similar policies anyway.
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Switch296: I doubt it. They removed an entire sex cut scene, they aren't going to leave that just sitting in the game folder unless they want to get sued.

We have no idea how this engine works or how complicated it may be so yeah, but having heavily modded games like Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout 3 & NV/Thief/Crysis, it's never simple. I know every engine is different though but yeah, I don't see this so called unofficial patch (If it even ever comes out, someone is going to have dedicated a lot of time to it) being as perfect as everyone is dreaming it will be.
My understanding is that sex isn't removed, simply the option to pick it as a reward is removed. All they need to do is add the option back in.
Post edited May 07, 2011 by eyeball226
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diceyy: Well I wouldn't trust them to release new games in line with their stated principles after this mess. Its a shame, I would have preferred to give my money straight to cdprojekt for a complete version of the game but it seems they do not want that to happen.
You can just use a VPN to download via the US or Europe and you shouldn't have any problems with getting your desired version. The mechanism they're using to figure it out is a lot weaker than it could be. I can't help but think that it's not an accident that they're going by IP rather than by billing information or stated place of residence.
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eyeball226: My understanding is that sex isn't removed, simply the option to pick it as a reward is removed. All they need to do is add the option back in.
If it's on the disc, even inaccessible, it must pass classification. This was proven duiring the Hot Coffee incident a few years ago.

Whether they can just tweak a bit of programming to remove the optional reward part of it, but leave the base programming for the sex scene in, is debatable.
Post edited May 08, 2011 by tikeno
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eyeball226: We actually got the same version as Japan, the blood was America only. There was some speculation that the blood was added to increase appeal in the US.

Also, a lot of the time the stuff you mention in old JRPGs was self censorship. Nintendo of America at least (don't know about Sega) had a policy that no games on their consoles could have any references to religion, alcohol, smoking, etc. The ratings board (if it even existed back then) never even saw any of those things. It is annoying that we got all those changes, but it's quite likely that NoE might have had similar policies anyway.
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Switch296: I doubt it. They removed an entire sex cut scene, they aren't going to leave that just sitting in the game folder unless they want to get sued.

We have no idea how this engine works or how complicated it may be so yeah, but having heavily modded games like Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout 3 & NV/Thief/Crysis, it's never simple. I know every engine is different though but yeah, I don't see this so called unofficial patch (If it even ever comes out, someone is going to have dedicated a lot of time to it) being as perfect as everyone is dreaming it will be.
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eyeball226: My understanding is that sex isn't removed, simply the option to pick it as a reward is removed. All they need to do is add the option back in.
It's been removed.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/05/witcher-2-modified-for-australian-ma15-release/

UPDATE: We’ve tried to clarify with Namco Bandai and it does seem that, in this side quest, the offer of sex is rejected automatically. Given all we know of The Witcher 2 it seems there will still be plenty of sexy time for Geralt, just not in the specific context of ‘sex as a reward’.


You can just tell it's going to be sex as a reward from Triss, too.

I find the Geralt/Triss romance thing going on to be the best and ONLY romance I have ever enjoyed in a game
Post edited May 08, 2011 by Switch296
In the Kotaku link it also has someone replying in the user comments, claiming to be from CDRP (they could be lying, but the post seemed genuine enough) and it said that patching the option back in would be easy:

"Other thing is that same as with Witcher 1 censored for US market, you can expect almost “day 1″ fan patch, to add missing content. We know our dedicated fans and they love to correct things like this (technically is piece of cake). And even if we want to stop this thing to happen we can’t do anything about it :-D"
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Avantre: "(...) you can expect almost “day 1″ fan patch, to add missing content."
Or an almost day 1 "fan" patch.
Well, officially pretending to follow the letter of the law while shamelessly doing otherwise has a long standing tradition in the Polish society ;P.
Still - I prefer open defiance...
GOG kinda fixed this now, I think:

WARSAW, POLAND. May 9, 2011 -- The dashing digital download dudes who run GOG.com (http://www.gog.com) have decided to change the way they do business, in light of customer response to the Witcher 2 preorder. They have decided that they will not use IP addresses to determine a customer’s location for game purchases and downloads.

“GOG.com has always been about trusting the user,” said Guillaume Rambourg, Managing Director of GOG.com. “We’ve come to the conclusion that there are a number of issues with using a customer’s IP address to determine what offer they are being presented with from GOG.com. A good number of users can find themselves negatively impacted by a policy of using geo IP to set their region.

“For example, customers may be travelling when they want to purchase or download a game from GOG.com. In this case, automatic IP address capture might change the price or the content of the game they’re ordering (such as the default language of the installer). Further, geo IP data collection is not always right. IP addresses are not a perfect or unique identifier of location, and can report the incorrect region of users, particularly ones who are not using standard Internet connections. Finally, we’re always very sensitive of our users’ privacy. Effective privacy protections for our users means that any data that we don’t need to collect, we shouldn’t. We only need to know the country that you’re making this purchase from, so although we originally planned to use geo-IP to determine user’s location, we’ve decided to trust our users and let them inform us as to the correct region for their purchase.”

Users who are finding problems with their country’s location (and the offer they are presented with) in their settings. They can update this by going to ”My Account” and clicking on “Account & Settings.”

The change is now live on GOG.com for all current purchases and preorders.
Post edited May 09, 2011 by Zeewolf
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Zeewolf: stuff
yup, issue resolved. nice job gog.
:-)

Cheers GOG.com - I understand if you choose not to make an official explanation here now.

Kudos to whoever came up with this brilliant dodge.
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Zeewolf: GOG kinda fixed this now, I think:

WARSAW, POLAND. May 9, 2011 -- The dashing digital download dudes who run GOG.com (http://www.gog.com) have decided to change the way they do business, in light of customer response to the Witcher 2 preorder. They have decided that they will not use IP addresses to determine a customer’s location for game purchases and downloads.

“GOG.com has always been about trusting the user,” said Guillaume Rambourg, Managing Director of GOG.com. “We’ve come to the conclusion that there are a number of issues with using a customer’s IP address to determine what offer they are being presented with from GOG.com. A good number of users can find themselves negatively impacted by a policy of using geo IP to set their region.

“For example, customers may be travelling when they want to purchase or download a game from GOG.com. In this case, automatic IP address capture might change the price or the content of the game they’re ordering (such as the default language of the installer). Further, geo IP data collection is not always right. IP addresses are not a perfect or unique identifier of location, and can report the incorrect region of users, particularly ones who are not using standard Internet connections. Finally, we’re always very sensitive of our users’ privacy. Effective privacy protections for our users means that any data that we don’t need to collect, we shouldn’t. We only need to know the country that you’re making this purchase from, so although we originally planned to use geo-IP to determine user’s location, we’ve decided to trust our users and let them inform us as to the correct region for their purchase.”

Users who are finding problems with their country’s location (and the offer they are presented with) in their settings. They can update this by going to ”My Account” and clicking on “Account & Settings.”

The change is now live on GOG.com for all current purchases and preorders.
I'm very impressed, my respect for GOG has just reached an all time high and I regret speaking out again them.

Good job.
Yeah, that makes up for quite a lot. Way to go!
One very happy American right here ;)

Thanks GoG!
Spread the love ! http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/10/er-australia-gog-drops-geo-ip-check/
*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
thanks gog
Yeah, that's great and all, and I'll certainly remember for the future. But I've still paid for a version of the game I didn't expect and don't want.

While I agree that there was some fairly major press coverage on the Australian situation prior to release, as a New Zealander I feel completely blind-sided. My first indication that I might have the censored version was after I'd made the purchase and I saw my download had "AU" in the title.