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This is my favourite topic
Posted July 03, 2021
Zoom Platform is legit and I think the future of drm free, I can see it coming in advance. They are more open in terms of game curation, good communication with customers and actually fix their games. In terms of the EA deal I would wait and see, I don't know how some people are coming up with weird conspiracies that zoom platform would pay EA to take the games down from gog and keep them for themselves when they are too small right now to be able to do that.
Posted July 03, 2021
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Let's take some time to reply to some stuff!

* - There's no grand conspiracy. There's no 'secret deal' to pull games from GOG and add them onto to Zoom-Platform. It's a cool story to weave but the fact is it's simply untrue. So All those who wish to 'fuck Zoom' you are welcome to unfuck Zoom!

*Perpetual rights are a thing (hey Duke!)

* Gut feelings are fine, but everything is transparent and social media is there for questions to be asked, be it Facebook, twitter or Discord. Honestly, reach out if you have questions.

*Zoom - Platform was not named after Zoom, though it is a pain to CEO as you expect, but that's a whole other topic!

*Zoom-platform has no client, it's all DRM-Free installers with optional extras such as manuals, ring-tones, sound clips etc

* ''In any case, based on the above, Zoom's future seems more unstable than GOG's.'' Zoom is smaller, which makes the grand conspiracy of Zoom and EA plotting to spite GOG even more silly, though again...could be a good WCW/ECW vs WWF storyline if this was the 90s!

* ''Pretty much how I feel about Zoom too, too much about the site seems... off, and a deal with EA of all companies isn't alleviating any of that wariness. I could easily see Zoom being bought out or folding.'' Again, Gut feelings are fine but alas if you don't reach out or ask question, how do you expect your gut feeling to change?

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''When GOG forum posters say Zoom, they are talking about an extremely tiny, ultra-obscure, DRM-free store, that almost nobody in the world knows about...other than a few GOG customers.'' - Thank you for the free marketing

Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
Post edited July 03, 2021 by Linko64
Posted July 03, 2021
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Linko64: * Gut feelings are fine, but everything is transparent and social media is there for questions to be asked, be it Facebook, twitter or Discord. Honestly, reach out if you have questions.
I remember what happened the last time someone had the audacity to ask Zoom a mildly uncomfortable question on Twitter. It didn't end well. (And it played a major part in why I don't hold the place in particularly high regard)

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Linko64: Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform.
Wait, you're joking, right?

If you're serious, I 100% salute their brass balls! Not sure I'm going to frequent their establishment any time soon (at least not unless Devoshun or Underworld Ascendant are released - or they massively overhaul their website) but still...

ω ('-'*ゞ
Posted July 03, 2021
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Linko64: Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform.
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fronzelneekburm: Wait, you're joking, right?
There is an admin with the same username, Linko64, on their Discord channel. I think it's great that he's reached out here to clarify those points. Good post! :-)
Posted July 03, 2021
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Linko64: Let's take some time to reply to some stuff!

* - There's no grand conspiracy. There's no 'secret deal' to pull games from GOG and add them onto to Zoom-Platform. It's a cool story to weave but the fact is it's simply untrue. So All those who wish to 'fuck Zoom' you are welcome to unfuck Zoom!

*Perpetual rights are a thing (hey Duke!)

* Gut feelings are fine, but everything is transparent and social media is there for questions to be asked, be it Facebook, twitter or Discord. Honestly, reach out if you have questions.

*Zoom - Platform was not named after Zoom, though it is a pain to CEO as you expect, but that's a whole other topic!

*Zoom-platform has no client, it's all DRM-Free installers with optional extras such as manuals, ring-tones, sound clips etc

* ''In any case, based on the above, Zoom's future seems more unstable than GOG's.'' Zoom is smaller, which makes the grand conspiracy of Zoom and EA plotting to spite GOG even more silly, though again...could be a good WCW/ECW vs WWF storyline if this was the 90s!

* ''Pretty much how I feel about Zoom too, too much about the site seems... off, and a deal with EA of all companies isn't alleviating any of that wariness. I could easily see Zoom being bought out or folding.'' Again, Gut feelings are fine but alas if you don't reach out or ask question, how do you expect your gut feeling to change?

* ''
''When GOG forum posters say Zoom, they are talking about an extremely tiny, ultra-obscure, DRM-free store, that almost nobody in the world knows about...other than a few GOG customers.'' - Thank you for the free marketing

Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
I have a question. Do you plan to re- design the webpage so that it is easier to find games?
Also, are there plans to have a zoom-platform forum any time soon?
Posted July 03, 2021
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fronzelneekburm: Wait, you're joking, right?
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Time4Tea: There is an admin with the same username, Linko64, on their Discord channel. I think it's great that he's reached out here to clarify those points. Good post! :-)
Huh, well fucketh me! Wasn't aware of that. That's pretty awesome and immediately lifts my opinion of the place from "Overwhelmingly negative" to "Neutral". Excelsior, Linko!
Posted July 03, 2021
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Centur10n86: Looks like Zoom may have picked up some EA classics.
maybe thats why gog lost ultima underworld etc
Well at least they'll be DRM-free on Zoom also!

that said I do find it strange that GOG, far bigger than Zoom and been around much longer, can't secure any more EA games whereas Zoom can (even if it is just games GOG already has or had). Guess it really is Zoom's people's industry connections? *shrug*

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Truth007: I don't know how some people are coming up with weird conspiracies that zoom platform would pay EA to take the games down from gog and keep them for themselves when they are too small right now to be able to do that.
The only way to get lots of people aboard are exclusives, I think they're a necessary evil to grow. Most gamers would much rather have all their games in one place, convenience above all else.

But I agree it's weird that Zoom would have that "power" given how small they are.
Post edited July 03, 2021 by tfishell
Posted July 03, 2021
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Swedrami: Called it in the other thread, the removal of the Ultima Underworlds and Syndicates from GoG was done out of pure spite.
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MeowCanuck: Let's see what games they'll be listing before jumping to conclusions. Another possibility is diversifying their IP with another platform so that both platforms start out-competing one another to give EA better business terms.
Awfully suspicious for this announcement to pop up just a few days after the delisting on GoG, though, isn't it?
Nah, I'll stand by my (conspiratorial) theory. Things just align up to well for this not being (one of) the reason(s) behind the delisting on GoG. I expect the rest of the few EA-published titles still listed to follow suit and be pulled the very moment their respective contracts for selling them on GoG run out, too.

EA:
"...let's put them on this "Zoom" service or whatever it's called. Probably won't make us any more money than when they were still on GoG, since everybody and their mother has picked them up there, but at least they're off the distribution platform associated with the company that dared to call us out on our perfectly moral and totally modest business practises all those years back."
Post edited July 03, 2021 by Swedrami
Posted July 03, 2021
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Linko64: Let's take some time to reply to some stuff!
Transparency from companies like this is well appreciated in stamping out conspiracy theorists and negative PR before it gets out of control. I sincerely hope Zoom does well.
Posted July 03, 2021
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tfishell: Well at least they'll be DRM-free on Zoom also!
Yes. If those games do get released on ZP, at least they will still be available somewhere DRM-free. As opposed to being put in a shoebox and locked in the closet, which many people seemed to be fearing a few days ago! To me, it brings some hope that they won't just disappear.

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tfishell: that said I do find it strange that GOG, far bigger than Zoom and been around much longer, can't secure any more EA games whereas Zoom can (even if it is just games GOG already has or had). Guess it really is Zoom's people's industry connections? *shrug*
The impression I get is that Zoom Platform's CEO, Jordan Freeman, has some excellent connections in the industry and seems to be very talented at making deals.
Post edited July 03, 2021 by Time4Tea
Posted July 03, 2021
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Linko64: Let's take some time to reply to some stuff!

* - There's no grand conspiracy. There's no 'secret deal' to pull games from GOG and add them onto to Zoom-Platform. It's a cool story to weave but the fact is it's simply untrue. So All those who wish to 'fuck Zoom' you are welcome to unfuck Zoom!

*Perpetual rights are a thing (hey Duke!)

* Gut feelings are fine, but everything is transparent and social media is there for questions to be asked, be it Facebook, twitter or Discord. Honestly, reach out if you have questions.

*Zoom - Platform was not named after Zoom, though it is a pain to CEO as you expect, but that's a whole other topic!

*Zoom-platform has no client, it's all DRM-Free installers with optional extras such as manuals, ring-tones, sound clips etc

* ''In any case, based on the above, Zoom's future seems more unstable than GOG's.'' Zoom is smaller, which makes the grand conspiracy of Zoom and EA plotting to spite GOG even more silly, though again...could be a good WCW/ECW vs WWF storyline if this was the 90s!

* ''Pretty much how I feel about Zoom too, too much about the site seems... off, and a deal with EA of all companies isn't alleviating any of that wariness. I could easily see Zoom being bought out or folding.'' Again, Gut feelings are fine but alas if you don't reach out or ask question, how do you expect your gut feeling to change?

* ''
''When GOG forum posters say Zoom, they are talking about an extremely tiny, ultra-obscure, DRM-free store, that almost nobody in the world knows about...other than a few GOG customers.'' - Thank you for the free marketing

Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
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Lifthrasil: I have a question. Do you plan to re- design the webpage so that it is easier to find games?
Also, are there plans to have a zoom-platform forum any time soon?
Yes, the website is being redone! It's no secert the website is dated and lacking some fuctions. The main goals with the redesign is to make it easier to browse, make it cleaner, easier to chase down titles by date as well as better use of screenshots, copy and videos rather than random youtube clips!

Forum is on the checklist, but will come later. For now, Discord is the main community tab we tend to use
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Linko64: * Gut feelings are fine, but everything is transparent and social media is there for questions to be asked, be it Facebook, twitter or Discord. Honestly, reach out if you have questions.
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fronzelneekburm: I remember what happened the last time someone had the audacity to ask Zoom a mildly uncomfortable question on Twitter. It didn't end well. (And it played a major part in why I don't hold the place in particularly high regard)

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Linko64: Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform.
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fronzelneekburm: Wait, you're joking, right?

If you're serious, I 100% salute their brass balls! Not sure I'm going to frequent their establishment any time soon (at least not unless Devoshun or Underworld Ascendant are released - or they massively overhaul their website) but still...

ω ('-'*ゞ
I'm sorry to hear that, though i can't tell you exactly what happened (or even when, i assume it was a while back before i worked with them) i can assure you requests/questions are always answered so feel free to shoot again and hopefully this time it won't deflect into your chest, bust soak deep into my spongey chest!
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Linko64: Let's take some time to reply to some stuff!
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MeowCanuck: Transparency from companies like this is well appreciated in stamping out conspiracy theorists and negative PR before it gets out of control. I sincerely hope Zoom does well.
I agree, sincerity is always something i want in the products and services i use, i want that with Zoom (no, not that one) too.

We're a small time fish but we've got plenty of bubbles to breathe. If something is being delisted, we'll mention it and give as much time possible for users to purchase it as we can. If there's a change to a product, we'll mention it. We're trying to avoid gimmicks etc etc.

The main focus is to ensure the games work, have no DRM and work on your system of choice (granted it's supported...FY we are trying to support Windows, Mac and Lynx the best we can)
Post edited July 03, 2021 by Linko64
Posted July 03, 2021
After a decay of the ten years limit license or selling rights of some games in GOG and the subsequent Zoom news about EA titles, I smell corporate nepotism, unfair competition and perpetual rights as gifts after having a drink :D

Nah, well, seriously. For now we do not know which games are going to be available in Zoom. But well, It is suspicious...:)
Posted July 03, 2021
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MeowCanuck: Let's see what games they'll be listing before jumping to conclusions. Another possibility is diversifying their IP with another platform so that both platforms start out-competing one another to give EA better business terms.
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Swedrami: Awfully suspicious for this announcement to pop up just a few days after the delisting on GoG, though, isn't it?
Nah, I'll stand by my (conspiratorial) theory. Things just align up to well for this not being (one of) the reason(s) behind the delisting on GoG. I fully expect the rest of the few EA-published titles still listed to follow suit and be pulled the very moment their respective contracts for selling them on GoG run out, too.

EA:
"...let's put them on this "Zoom" service or whatever it's called. Probably won't make us any more money than when they were still on GoG, since everybody and their mother has picked them up there, but at least they're off the distribution platform associated with the company that dared to call us out on our perfectly moral and totally modest business practises all those years back."
A part of dealings that people tend to forget, nothing is quick.

EA and Zoom working together has long been in the pipeline. As people keep pointing out, we're a small fish so it makes zero sense for the theory that we have somehow pushed out a company owned by one of the richest in the indusrty.

As i said, nothing is quick in video games, least of all dealings between companies. The only thing that is quick are fan-fics!
Posted July 03, 2021
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MeowCanuck: Let's see what games they'll be listing before jumping to conclusions. Another possibility is diversifying their IP with another platform so that both platforms start out-competing one another to give EA better business terms.
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Swedrami: Awfully suspicious for this announcement to pop up just a few days after the delisting on GoG, though, isn't it?
Nah, I'll stand by my (conspiratorial) theory. Things just align up to well for this not being (one of) the reason(s) behind the delisting on GoG. I expect the rest of the few EA-published titles still listed to follow suit and be pulled the very moment their respective contracts for selling them on GoG run out, too.

EA:
"...let's put them on this "Zoom" service or whatever it's called. Probably won't make us any more money than when they were still on GoG, since everybody and their mother has picked them up there, but at least they're off the distribution platform associated with the company that dared to call us out on our perfectly moral and totally modest business practises all those years back."
Still a bit doubtful about the probability, let alone capability of holding a grudge for that long, but you may be onto something with this.
Posted July 04, 2021
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Linko64: Again, Gut feelings are fine but alas if you don't reach out or ask question, how do you expect your gut feeling to change?
Well, you ingest news and occurrences as things progress and sometimes the gut behaves in completely different ways. It is, after all, a gut :P.

Having a nice and open community manager and all is good, but my gut is still obstinate. Perhaps it's because I know good people working in a bad place is a thing. I work for the devil himself and know his ways. What can I say, he pays well.

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Linko64: EA and Zoom working together has long been in the pipeline. As people keep pointing out, we're a small fish so it makes zero sense for the theory that we have somehow pushed out a company owned by one of the richest in the indusrty.
Admit it, you have dirt on EA and are blackmailing them! Oh, wait, I forgot... everyone has dirt on EA, because it's public and there's plenty of it. Nevermind then :P.
Post edited July 04, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
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