Make fun of my spidey sense all you want, but I'll have you know it's a many-years-spent-in-the-corporate-space spidey sense that I've further detailed in quite a few posts above :P. I won't herald Zoom as the savior of DRM-free until I see who among the major players will back it or own it. Because I strongly believe it will come to that. Spidey sense out.

FireFlower should just be "Flower" frankly, the person running the store only accepts non-violent games. So it was never going to take off.

Zoom seems a lot more open about accepting games as long as they're at least "decent", though I'm still waiting for Detention and Devotion to make it there (supposedly still being worked on).

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I do think competition for GOG is a good thing of course, however if the vast majority of GOG users are using Galaxy, and that seems likely, I'm not sure how many customers Zoom can really siphon away and encourage GOG to change direction. Maybe if Zoom gets some big-name exclusives.

I think the main thing hurting GOG right now that most every user cares about is the "2nd class citizen" list, at least things like important patches.

Oh, and Zoom might be willing to do more for the Linux crowd.

You are hating and trolling but keeping it suttle, it's pretty obvious. Everything you said can happen with gog too literally.

True enough, but he is more or less their official mouthpiece here now.
Question: let's say the head of the company posted here.....would you doubt their words as well or no?

(I see you have decided to stop with this topic, so feel free to choose to reply to this or not)

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From what Link0 said earlier ITT, it would seem Zoom contacted the creators of the games and they decided to sell on their own store instead.

And without the finances of Steam.....this and some nice titles might lure a good number of people to Zoom in time.

I see, that's fair. Thanks.

Np

Here's the bit from Post 48, btw:

"As for Devotion, we did reach out to them as noted in our discord, which was posted here, but that was about it. From a personal perspective, i think they understood that releasing it via their own site would probably make them more money and more control. They wouldn't even need to market it."

Are you referring to GOG? CDPR went public. I consider them to have 'sold out' to corporate forces years ago.

Personally, I am fine with that, for sure. It's a risk I'm very much willing to take for the chance to support a new DRM-free store, help it grow and hopefully expand our options.

I respect that they are sticking to their principles and maintaining a DRM-free store. But, unfortunately that stance rules out probably 95% of the games I would be interested in.

Yes, they have said before on their Discord they would be willing to host Red Candle's games and they have approached them; however, if RC have been burned with GOG and decided they are better off selling via their own website, there isn't much ZP can do about that. I appreciate their openness to be frank and honest about it though.

Speaking of: I find it "funny" how some(generally speaking, not just ITT) will say they don't trust Zoom because it might go corporate are seemingly more ok with/trusting of GOG who has already gone corporate.

Especially with those users who liked pre-corporate GOG more...one would think they'd more readily embrace(or at least not be so distrustful of) a new DRM-free store.

Just one more reason I am starting to respect/trust Zoom more and more.

Jeez, has it really been a decade since EA signed on? I still have vague memories of everyone holding their breath that EA would sign on because it meant we'd finally get Syndicate and System Shock, then it happened but they buried a disclaimer in the announcement stating that neither game would be part of the deal. Good times.

As I see it, one DRM-free store is enough.
And you might as well stick with the established one that more or less pioneered the whole thing and despite the few questionable decisions/gaffes/shortcomings over the years - that have yet to significantly affect my personal experience with GOG and make me leave for greener pastures - still has the necessary reputation making it more likelier to stay around and continue to slowly but surely grow for years to come.

As long as there are offline installers, a continuous influx of new as well as old classic games and Galaxy staying optional and the fuck out of my singleplayer experience I'm sticking around, exclusively.
Especially now that GOG seemingly continues to make an effort to make good on and correct past mistakes by bringing formerly rejected games such as Agony on board.

You mean for yourself, I assume.....because I don't see why it would be so hard to remember login details for say one extra DRM-free store. Now if they were DRM laden stores with clients, then I could see that being a bit more of a problem.

It's been more than a few, and the words gaffes/shortcomings are a bit of an understatement when it comes to some of GOG's recent bad decisions, I think.

Didn't you hear about the small handful of games that more or less need galaxy to run in SP(due to bugs and etc mostly, iirc)?
(I forget the link to the thread listing them, but i'm guessing another gogger will eventually see this and link it here)

They're bringing Agony here? Since when?

Yeah that was basically when I became a regular here. I remember when Crusader No Remorse was on the front page, that made a deep impression in me that there were a lot of classic games I wasn't aware of. I assume Syndicate showed up thanks to the reboot + the EA releases selling well enough here.

btw I wouldn't necessarily blame Zoom for trying to steal away GOG games to help grow their business with exclusives, that's the business world, but far more interesting to me would be EA games that didn't already get released on GOG.

https://twitter.com/World_of_Agony/status/1409947807616835596

Agony and Succubus are coming.

Well said

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Interesting.....GOG must finally see that a profit can be made by bringing it(agony) here. As for the other game: i'd actually never heard of it until now, so thanks for letting me know about it.

*Sigh* If that is how it came across, I apologize, but I was only trying to argumentatively present my opinion on the future state of things. I usually have an aloof laissez-faire attitude, yet I was trying to make some fair points not mock anyone or anything. It is fine to have a different opinion and disagree with me, however, as I said before I have no particular hate nor love of Zoom. I also regard having more players in the DRM-free space as a good thing.

... and I have admitted as much. GOG however is already "corporately acquired" by CDPR, so the risk of it or CDPR changing hands in the future is rather low IMHO. Essentially, yes, this is a common problem, but on different scales - that was really my point.

If he came out and said he does not intend to sell Zoom or the JFG? No, I would not doubt them. But that does not mean it can not happen, since this is how the industry operates. There have been stores out there that have managed to remain independent, such as Itch.io, but I do not get that niche intention from Zoom to be honest. Again, only time will tell, and I have absolutely no problem if my speculations are proven wrong. As others have pointed out, this is hardly a concern for most people anyway.

I will refrain from expressing any thoughts about these topics in the future, since obviously this has irked people beyond measure for some reason.