That sounds... even worse?

Though I would like to see a Metroid Prime game under Cryengine 3, but not made under Crytek as they are now "Shudders"

Zelda made by Bethesda........I am mixed on that.

Pikmin, F-Zero, Mario, Pokemon, etc. I do not know where they would go to :\

I don't particularly want Nintendo's IPs to get auctioned off ala THQ, but I don't see a problem with multiplatform Nintendo games, that would be a good thing, imo, especially since I'm not interested in enough of them to justify the purchase of a WiiU (or even re-buy the Wii, I'd seriously be doing that for one game). It would give Nintendo more revenue, I suspect, and then they wouldn't be burdened by implementation details that they seem to get 100% wrong almost every time (such as, "Is it a good idea to tie this online purchase to hardware?" or "How should we implement online co-op?").

What could this possibly be based on other than comfort in what you're used to? A Zelda game on an XBox 360 isn't suddenly going to look at play like Darksiders and if you think they'll sell out their own franchises, they haven't exactly restrained themselves even on their own hardware (just see Pokemon as an example).

Rather the first option but if Nintendo go, we'd see one of the best first party devs gone...
May seem good but Nintendo knew how to get the best out of their systems for their games, but as sega proved when they went third party, it isn't as good as it seems, they made less games than when they were first party due to less €€€ and they don't have to have exclusive mania to sell their consoles...

Classic franchises going to other devs is pretty crap, look what happened to Crash and Spyro nowadays, they were once some of the best series on the PSone...
Anyway Nintendo is pretty good at keeping the classics popular while Sega just do re-releases every now and then.

Oh no, that would be the worst thing to ever happen in the games industry. Nintendo is the only big company that still brings creativity into all their games.

Just the thought of getting a new "Zelda: Hyrule Warfare" every year makes me sick.
Oh no, no backwards flying dragons, please.

Seriously, only Nintendo knows what to do with their franchises. Other companies would probably milk these franchises to death.

Really? Capcom developed Zelda Oracle of Ages, Seasons, and The Minish Cap, and they were fantastic. Super Mario RPG was developed by Square and it was great. Lets not forget the Mario & Luigi RPGs by AlphaDream. I'd say giving the franchises to the right developers would yield good results in their quality, while there's always the chance of a bad game getting made (Other M) it's kind of foolish to think a Nintendo game would automatically be bad under another developer (considering that Nintendo had other developers work on their franchises).

That's true, if going third-party was a good thing, Sega would still be one of the best publisher/developers in the world. But we know it didn't happen.

Somehow Sega lost it's "magic" when they abandoned the Dreamcast. The best games realeased by Sega nowadays are remakes of the ones they made for their consoles back in the day. Just name me one Sega game better than Sonic Adventures, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Shenmue, Shining Force or Panzer Dragoon Saga.

And that's coming from someone who still loves Sonic, i even enjoyed Sonic 06.

The only good new games from Sega are the ones that come from Creative Assembly.


Anyway, it's wrong to assume that Nintendo will go bankrupt or abandon the hardware race just because the Wii U isn't doing well, or even compare it to Sega. Nintendo is financially healthy, as far as i'm aware, and the 3DS is doing extremely well. Heck, the 3DS itself had a very rough start, which made many stupid analysts come up and say that "portables are dead". Sega was a completely different thing, their management sucked, and they had no money at all when they released the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast itself was not responsible for Sega's failure, since it did sell pretty well and was pretty much ahead of it's time (all Sega consoles were ahead of their time, the Saturn had an add-on that allowed online play if i recall correctly). Sega was plagued from the start by terrible business decisions and mismanagement. Sega of Japan and Sega of America acted like 2 completely different companies, and there wwere even political divergences between them, even though Sega of America was supposed to follow Japan's orders. When they started developing the sucessor to the Genesis, both Sega of Japan (project Saturn) and Sega of AMerica (project Neptune) started their own projects, what a fucking waste of resources and money that was.

The Wii U had the same issue as the 3DS on launch: it had no games, and it still doesn't. However this will change, Nintendo has already announced that a new 3D Mario game and a new Mario Kart are in development and will be shown at E3. Both will probably come out this year.

It looks like people want Nintendo to fail, people want Microsoft or Sony to have a monopoly over the console market. Seriously, the amount of Nintendo bashing on the internet is insane (i'm not talking about this forum). For me the more competition, the better. I even dream of the day Sega will make their triumphant return to the hardware market. It will never happen, but a man can dream.

But all these projects were under heavy supervision by Nintendo, especially Miyamoto.

If Capcom had the rights to develop a Zelda game without any restrictions today, oh boy, God knows what could happen. "Zelda Super Motherfucking Arcade 2025 Edition with Lasers", and in order to have Link as playable character you would have to buy a DLC.

There can be good games by other developers, even Other M was pretty decent, not great by any means, but not a bad game either. However, there has to be some sort of control from Nintendo. The examples that we have of games that use Nintendo's franchises wihout any sort of influence from Nintendo are pretty fucking bad: Hotel Mario and the 3 Zelda games for CD-i.

Sega is only one case study, what happened to them was based on greed, desperation, and probably a loss of a lot of key people.

Nintendo making games without their own platform doesn't have to be the end of good Nintendo games (I'd argue a lot of them aren't terribly good right now, but that's just me). Without the huge cap ex they had to recoup from hardware development they could focus on what they seem to be a bit better at.

I read the other day that at the current rate of losing money, Nintendo can go for 20-30 years (I think) before they are in danger of bankruptcy. So they aren't going anywhere. Several of Nintendo's top people also said they will take their IP to the grave rather than sell it off. So unless there is a take over attempt or whatnot from the shareholders, Mario won't be showing up legally on an iPad any time soon. I think most of the stock is still owned by the former president of the company, so the chances of that happening are slim also.

Regarding the Wii U, I think at this point the system is a disaster and Nintendo is going to have to pull off an even bigger feat to turn it around than they did the 3DS. If they do a big price drop they will be losing even more than they currently are on the console, plus they will piss off early adopters that paid full price for the thing. They made a bet on an expensive controller and the consumer demand isn't there for it. That also ends up being a big barrier to reducing costs in the future, hurting price drops.

3rd parties are an unknown at this point. Activision isn't too thrilled with Black Ops 2's sales, so they might be questionable for future support. EA seems to be an unknown at this point too. Talk came out today that a Crysis 3 port was well along in development until EA said they wouldn't let it be released and it got canceled.

Unless they pull off something, and fast, the Wii U will end up selling less world wide than the Gamecube did. (21 million) If it does I can see Nintendo going hand-held only in the future. 4 more years would be a good amount of time to ride out the 3ds while letting the Wii U fade away and release a new portable with TV out.

Even then their handhelds will probalby won't last because of Smartphones sadly :(
What about a remake Metroid Prime 1, NOT MADE UNDER CRYTEK, but at least use their Cryengine 3 for it?

Please let's try not to be so pessimistic. :(

Its the sad but self evident truth man :(

This is serious bullcrap IMO as who actually goes on their phone for proper gaming? Maybe to pass time on a bus or train for a few minutes but never normal gaming.