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General discussion (archive)Ubisoft says resistance to DLC/microtransactions is weakening(191 posts)(191 posts)
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Posted July 04, 2014
More Ubi news: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-07-03-gamer-resistance-to-digital-decreasing-ubisoft

Last year, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag launched alongside a handful of "Time Saver" downloadable content packs. For $1 or $2, players could stock up on in-game resources, or reveal the locations of the game's many collectibles and activities without the need for actual exploration. That sort of perk would have been freely accessible through cheat codes in previous generations, and it's not hard to imagine the uproar charging for them would have caused in the early days of the last generation of systems. Speaking with GamesIndustry International at E3 last month, Ubisoft VP of digital publishing Chris Early recalled the reaction--or lack thereof-- to those time-saver packs.

"There was no resistance," Early said. "Maybe there were 12 guys somewhere who said something, but whatever. As a whole, there wasn't a problem."
(I'd have been the thirteenth--if I bought DRM'd games anyway...)
Posted July 04, 2014
The borg said it best.

But I don't resist anyway. If a guy wants to spend a few dollars extra to make the game more enjoyable, more power to them. And yay for companies capitalizing on it.

I just don't buy anything that DLC is really required. I've bought a few DLCs and they were way-after-market add-ons. But if someone's willing to buy something, then they should sell it.

It drives me batty when it's stuff that should be included (like Alan Wake's 2 DLC. You only got 2/3 of the game and the other 1/3 was DLC). Still, I bought the AW DLC too. I'm a schmuck.


P.S. I should say that what DLC has done to my buying habits is that I wait to buy until collector's editions are out. But some games (like Battlefield) die so quickly that you need the DLC and the game to keep playing. So it's a $110 game instead of $60. I don't know how to get around that one very well. But things like Dragon Age are great to wait for a while. But I'm seeing less and less C.E.s out now. I think companies will just stop selling them. So if you want a game demo, it's $60. Get the whole game, $1,243. Whole game plus neat skins, $42,634. And time-savers: $160,320.
Post edited July 04, 2014 by Tallima
Posted July 04, 2014
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Tallima: P.S. I should say that what DLC has done to my buying habits is that I wait to buy until collector's editions are out. But some games (like Battlefield) die so quickly that you need the DLC and the game to keep playing. So it's a $110 game instead of $60. I don't know how to get around that one very well. But things like Dragon Age are great to wait for a while. But I'm seeing less and less C.E.s out now. I think companies will just stop selling them. So if you want a game demo, it's $60. Get the whole game, $1,243. Whole game plus neat skins, $42,634. And time-savers: $160,320.
This is where I'm at. If it comes to the point where they don't sell Collector's/Ultimate/Complete/Extra Crispy editions, I'll just buy the base game on sale at 5 bucks or less. I won't bother with DLCs.
Posted July 04, 2014
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Tallima: So it's a $110 game instead of $60. I don't know how to get around that one very well. But things like Dragon Age are great to wait for a while. But I'm seeing less and less C.E.s out now. I think companies will just stop selling them. So if you want a game demo, it's $60. Get the whole game, $1,243. Whole game plus neat skins, $42,634. And time-savers: $160,320.
Or get the "the game" for free but pay $340,223 in microtransactions to be able to win.
Posted July 04, 2014
Their statements just increase my resistance to buying a single thing from them.

If they didn't have a few classics here they wouldn't have got any of my money for PC games in the last 10 years.
Post edited July 04, 2014 by MikeMaximus
Posted July 04, 2014
"There was no resistance," Early said. "Maybe there were 12 guys somewhere who said something, but whatever.[...]

"Season pass is pretty much accepted. Now it's interesting when you start to think of Season Pass as a Service Pass. For our Season Pass holders, I know we hold events for them specifically, so it's little bit more than just DLC content. So there's an evolution going on there."
I find the choice of words interesting...
Posted July 04, 2014
Otherwise I wouldn't be against them charging for "cheat DLCs", but unfortunately it is an incentive for them to make the games irritating or boring to play if you try to avoid buying extra resources or "reveal locations of collectibles". Dungeon Keeper mobile and Plants vs Zombies 2 as examples.

It just makes it feel they are not trying to make the game as much fun as possible, but as irritating as possible (if you don't pay extra).
Post edited July 04, 2014 by timppu
Posted July 04, 2014
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VanishedOne: That sort of perk would have been freely accessible through cheat codes in previous generations
But they used to make a lot from the premium rate 'tip' lines that were an easy way to make money from chumps who didn't know where to get the cheat codes. The internet and sites like GameFAQs probably killed that premium rate business, so really the pay to cheat via microtransaction is just restoring a lost revenue stream.
Posted July 04, 2014
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MikeMaximus: Their statements just increase my resistance to buying a single thing from them.

If they didn't have a few classics here they wouldn't have got any of my money for PC games in the last 10 years.
Support the games that are directed by Michel Ancel (Rayman and Beyond Good and Evil) and say no to rest.

E: Although Rayman Legends seems to be uplay dependant, which is bad. What a pickle.
Post edited July 04, 2014 by Yrtti
Posted July 04, 2014
Ubisoft can slurp my smoking morning shit and I will still use all my vigil will to avoid giving them a single portion of a cent of my money.

And I'm being polite here...
Posted July 04, 2014
Knowing Ubisoft, they'll see this as a sign they can do whatever they want, put out a major release with horrible money-grubbing microtransactions that hamper gameplay, get blasted by lots of gamers, blame gamers publicly for not knowing what's good for us (or ignore the complaints and say how it's better for the gaming industry), then realize they made a mistake and quietly purge it from future releases without so much as an apology.

If only this would happen to UPlay.
Post edited July 04, 2014 by darthyip
Posted July 04, 2014
Ayyone else remember near the beginning of the Two Towers movie where you have hordes of hillmen and Uruks unopposed terrorizing Rohan? The way this was phrased made me think of that. Anyone else remember how at the end and there were maybe twelve guys defending the keep in Helm's Deep? Unfortunately, there doesn't look like there are any Rohirim.
Edit: And, for goodness sake, it's a pirate game about exploring the Caribbean, why wouldn't you want to "traditionally explore it?" What next, "Press 'X' to move past the guards, get into position, auto assasinate, and run through the 12 button QTE to escape for $1?"
Post edited July 04, 2014 by AnimalMother117
Posted July 04, 2014
Because so many video games get released every week for sale and a lot of the video games have so many DLC's. I wait for the video game to be bundled with every single DLC's it has to go on sale so I purchase the video game with all of it's DLC's up to $50 dollars (USD) or below. I will never pay $50.99 dollars (USD), $51.00 dollars (USD) or $60 dollars (USD) for video games ever again.

I mean look at Train Simulator 2014 which is Train Simulator 2013 which is Train Simulator 2012. Train Simulator 2014 has like over 100 DLC's that cost anywhere from $4.99 dollars (USD) to $19.99 dollars (USD). All of the DLC's combined costs $3,932.24 dollars (USD). I will purchase Train Simulator 2014 with all of those DLC's included for free for $39.99 dollars (USD) whenever that happens. Maybe when Train Simulator 2014 gets released for sale on gog.com 100% Digital Rights Management (DRM) free with all of the DLC's included for free then I will purchase Train Simulator 2014 for $39.99 dollars (USD).

DLC's are destroying the video game industry. I wish the good old days like in the 1990's and early 2000's of expansion packs being released for sale come back.

CD Projekt RED said they will sell expansion packs only for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and give out DLC's for free in patches just like CD Projekt RED did for The Witcher Enhanced Edition and The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition.

This is why I love CD Projekt RED and CD Projekt RED will be the only video game development company I will be purchasing video games from for years to come and off of gog.com as well. If video games that get released for sale on Steam come with all of the DLC's for free in patches and only expansion packs are sold then I will also purchase those video games from Steam as well. But video games have to be released for sale on both gog.com and Steam. I hate video games getting sold exclusively on Steam.

I know I am not the only PC gamer who is like this.

I managed to save over $500 dollars (USD) by not purchasing video games that also have DLC's for sale.

Here are the video games I did not purchase that have DLC's.

Battlefield 3

Dragon Age 2

Medal of Honor: Warfighter

Mass Effect 3

Dead Space 3

Battlefiled 4

Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

Assassin's Creed III

Far Cry 3

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

Another reason I didn't purchase those video games is because the video games published by Electronic Arts (EA) have Origin. I will never make a origin account. Video games published by Ubisoft have uPlay. I will never make a uPlay account.

I am one of those PC gamers who saves their money in their wallet and purchase PC versions of video games that have every single DLC bundled with the main video game up to $49.99 dollars (USD) is what I will spend on video games for the rest of my life.
Posted July 04, 2014
I suddenly feel the need to pirate their games .
Posted July 04, 2014
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Johnathanamz: CD Projekt RED said they will sell expansion packs only for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and give out DLC's for free in patches just like CD Projekt RED did for The Witcher Enhanced Edition and The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition.
Riiight.

What will be a popular method of distribution for those 'expansion packs' I wonder...
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